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Disney rumour: a new Live Action “Black Cauldron”

Tonguez

Legend
Theres a new unconfirmed rumour about that Disney is looking to do a new Live Action version of The Black Cauldron.
Apparently Disney werent satisfied with the old animated version and in 2016 re-acquired the rights to The Chronicles of Prydain (by Lloyd Alexander) and will be adapting all five novels rather than just the first two as the animated version did.

I really enjoyed the novels which are different and better to the animated movie, so am excited about this. What do you all think?

 

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Urriak Uruk

Debate fuels my Fire
Two things about this;

1. Loved the animated movie. It is really freaky for a kid to watch, I mean the Horned King easily outstrips any other animated one in how scary he is.

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2. Seriously doubt this is actually true. People don't know this, but the animated Black Cauldron almost bankrupted Disney, and the movie is known as "The film that almost killed Disney." I highly doubt anyone wants to revisit a property that nearly destroyed them.

Wikipedia section below;

The Black Cauldron was released in North America on July 26, 1985.[3] The film was also screened at Radio City Music Hall in New York City.[32] While officially budgeted by Disney executives at $25 million,[10] the film's production manager, Don Hahn,[10] said in his documentary, Waking Sleeping Beauty, that it cost $44 million to produce the film.[5][6] The $44-million budget made it the most expensive animated film ever made at the time.[7] The film grossed $21.3 million domestically.[3] It resulted in a loss for Walt Disney Studios and put the future of the animation department in jeopardy (earning it the nickname "the film that almost killed Disney").[7] It was so poorly received that it was not distributed as a home video release for more than a decade after its theatrical run.[19] Adding insult to injury, the film was also beaten at the box office by The Care Bears Movie ($22.9 million domestically), which was released several months earlier by Disney's much-smaller rival animation studio in Canada Nelvana.[33] The film was however more successful outside North America notably in France where it had 3,074,481 admissions and was the fifth most attended film of the year.[34]

The film was the last Disney animated film to be completed at the original Animation Building of the Walt Disney Studios in Burbank, California.[35] The animation department was moved to the Air Way facility in nearby Glendale in December 1984, and, following corporate restructuring, eventually returned to the Burbank studio in the mid-1990s at a new facility.[33]
 

Tonguez

Legend
Seriously doubt this is actually true. People don't know this, but the animated Black Cauldron almost bankrupted Disney, and the movie is known as "The film that almost killed Disney." I highly doubt anyone wants to revisit a property that nearly destroyed them.

To be fair, that was 35 years ago - an entire generation - and technology and film marketing have changed from then. Also the fact that Disney re-acquired the rights just 4 years ago seems to indicate that they see some value in the property.
 
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Parmandur

Legend
Two things about this;

1. Loved the animated movie. It is really freaky for a kid to watch, I mean the Horned King easily outstrips any other animated one in how scary he is.

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2. Seriously doubt this is actually true. People don't know this, but the animated Black Cauldron almost bankrupted Disney, and the movie is known as "The film that almost killed Disney." I highly doubt anyone wants to revisit a property that nearly destroyed them.

Wikipedia section below;

The Black Cauldron was released in North America on July 26, 1985.[3] The film was also screened at Radio City Music Hall in New York City.[32] While officially budgeted by Disney executives at $25 million,[10] the film's production manager, Don Hahn,[10] said in his documentary, Waking Sleeping Beauty, that it cost $44 million to produce the film.[5][6] The $44-million budget made it the most expensive animated film ever made at the time.[7] The film grossed $21.3 million domestically.[3] It resulted in a loss for Walt Disney Studios and put the future of the animation department in jeopardy (earning it the nickname "the film that almost killed Disney").[7] It was so poorly received that it was not distributed as a home video release for more than a decade after its theatrical run.[19] Adding insult to injury, the film was also beaten at the box office by The Care Bears Movie ($22.9 million domestically), which was released several months earlier by Disney's much-smaller rival animation studio in Canada Nelvana.[33] The film was however more successful outside North America notably in France where it had 3,074,481 admissions and was the fifth most attended film of the year.[34]

The film was the last Disney animated film to be completed at the original Animation Building of the Walt Disney Studios in Burbank, California.[35] The animation department was moved to the Air Way facility in nearby Glendale in December 1984, and, following corporate restructuring, eventually returned to the Burbank studio in the mid-1990s at a new facility.[33]

It is true that they paid for the option to do it...time will tell if that goes anywhere.

The series is very popular and well known, for the book and not the movie, which would probably be forgotten if not for Disney keeping it alive in places like Disney+.
 




Sacrosanct

Legend
So stoked if this is true. They were the books that got me into fantasy in the first place. And they were ahead of their time. Taran might be the main character technically, but it's Eilonwy who is the smartest and toughest character. Unusual at the time to make a girl like that in a fantasy series.
 

Nebulous

Legend
So stoked if this is true. They were the books that got me into fantasy in the first place. And they were ahead of their time. Taran might be the main character technically, but it's Eilonwy who is the smartest and toughest character. Unusual at the time to make a girl like that in a fantasy series.

The last book of the series was especially gut wrenching and adult, it was way ahead of Harry Potter in terms of such adult themes. Lloyd Alexander is a name you don't hear anymore and it's a shame.

That's the cover I had! I remember it vividly, and was around the time I got into DnD as a kid.

 

Eltab

Hero
What I had ever heard about The Black Cauldron was that it was a flop and not well-received; no usual Disney songs in the animation; it cost (not made) money; a lot of disappointed parents with scared kids would not go see it a second time.
I was a teenager and "too cool for a Disney cartoon" at the time.
If Disney wants to try again and do it better, go ahead. I'll have something new (to me) to consider going to see.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
Barely remember them. Read them 1988 iirc. Remember the name Taran, and some sort of lunch like figure keeping his soul locked away.

Vaguely remember the Black Cauldron movie.
 


Urriak Uruk

Debate fuels my Fire
It is true that they paid for the option to do it...time will tell if that goes anywhere.

The series is very popular and well known, for the book and not the movie, which would probably be forgotten if not for Disney keeping it alive in places like Disney+.

I actually do hope this rumor is true, as big-budget fantasy is always something I'm rooting for, and I was someone who really liked the look of Black Cauldron as a kid (even though the Horned King gave me nightmares).

I do think that Disney just buys a bunch of IPs, sometimes solely to sit on them so others can't use them. I'd be very surprised to see Disney return to that property, solely because I'm sure the legacy of the animated film's failure is considered a taboo warning for staff.
 


Rygar

Explorer
Two things about this;

1. Loved the animated movie. It is really freaky for a kid to watch, I mean the Horned King easily outstrips any other animated one in how scary he is.

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2. Seriously doubt this is actually true. People don't know this, but the animated Black Cauldron almost bankrupted Disney, and the movie is known as "The film that almost killed Disney." I highly doubt anyone wants to revisit a property that nearly destroyed them.

It's at least partially true. Disney reacquired the rights to the Prydain Chronicles in 2016. That said, Disney reacquired the rights in 2016 and nothing's happened since, hence I'm saying partially.
 

I'm just going to add what I've mentioned a few times on these pages: Gwyddion, not Strider, is the original spelcasting ranger.

(Also, having read and reread the Chronicles of Prydain as a kid, I was surprised to discover that the roles of good and evil are reversed in the Mabinogion: Arawn and Pryderi are good guys, and Gwyddion is a troublemaking trickster.)
 

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