Disney Star Wars Is It Actually That Bad?

[Yora]

S: The Empire Strikes Back
A: Star Wars, Return of the Jedi
B: Revenge of the Sith; The Mandalorian
C: The Phantom Menace
D: Rogue One, Attack of the Clones; (Solo*, Boba Fett*)
E: The Force Awakens, The Last Jedi, (Rise of Skywalker*, Obi-Wan*)

(*Based on reviews, so doesn't really count)

Yes, real Star Wars has always produced a lot of crap, but that crap was weird comics and obscure videogames that nobody outside dedicated fans knew about and that was mostly ignored. And it didn't interfere with the movie. That's the big difference with Disney Wars.

 

[Umbran]

I don't tend to rank things with much granularity. I don't find much value in the exercise.

I haven't seen Kenobi yet. I had less than no interest in Book of Boba Fett.
The Mandalorian's okay, though I think that overall the work is too long to have the Old West style pacing pay off. It becomes a bit tedious.

I am, of course, a fan of the original movies.
I also liked Episodes 7-9, and if you have a problem with that, you can fold it five ways and stick it where the points'll hurt.
I liked Rogue One.
I don't think Solo is bad, but I have no real interest in seeing it again, either.
I find the prequels to be flawed, but there's some stuff in there I still like, and if a friend wanted, I'd watch 'em without complaint.

 

[Mannahnin]

(The following list of all Star Wars stuff was determined by Colosson the Numberwang Robot and as the product of Maths cannot be argued with.)


1. Empire Strikes Back.
2. A New Hope
3. The Last Jedi.
4. 3 3/4" Star Wars Action Figures
4. Rogue One.
5. The Mandalorian.
6. Star Wars Bed Sheets. Search your feelings. You know this to be true.
7. Various animated Star Wars shows, such as Clone Wars.
8. The Force Awakens. Needz moar lenz flarez.
9. Going to any Star Wars movie with a friend who keeps asking you if Yoda is related to Hulk. Because Green?
10. Return of the Jedi. Ain't no party like an Ewok party 'cuz an Ewok party can't stop. Yub nub, eee chop yub nub.

I agree with Snarf except swap The Last Jedi and Return of the Jedi. And swap Rogue One and The Mandalorian.

 

[MGibster]

I also liked Episodes 7-9, and if you have a problem with that, you can fold it five ways and stick it where the points'll hurt.

I came to the conclusion more than two decades past that I like too many stupid things to get bent out of shape about what other people like. Despite disliking episodes 8-9 (7 was okay), I liked all the actors and even their characters, and it was especially nice to see Ian McDiarmid chewing the scenery as Palpatine again.

 

[Umbran]

I came to the conclusion more than two decades past that I like too many stupid things to get bent out of shape about what other people like.

Oh, that I understand. It is when I like something reasonably intelligent, and still have people get on my case about it that it gets aggravating.

 

[Hex08]

I came to the conclusion more than two decades past that I like too many stupid things to get bent out of shape about what other people like. Despite disliking episodes 8-9 (7 was okay), I liked all the actors and even their characters, and it was especially nice to see Ian McDiarmid chewing the scenery as Palpatine again.

See, now I feel like you need to start a thread where people can list the stupid things they like.

 

[SakanaSensei]

Sticking to just the mainline:

S: 8, 4
A: 5, 3
B: 6, 7
C: 1, 2
Killed my love for a franchise that was a huge part of my childhood and connection with family: 9

 

[MGibster]

Oh, that I understand. It is when I like something reasonably intelligent, and still have people get on my case about it that it gets aggravating.

I agree, it's annoying. It was while watching Babylon 5 that I realized it was essentially a soap opera in space. Made me reflect on the silliness of things I like, and I pretty much stopped making fun of what other people liked. Glass houses and all that.

See, now I feel like you need to start a thread where people can list the stupid things they like.

I spend a small fortune each year on role playing games and little plastic figures I paint. That's got to be at the top of the list for me.

 

[Zardnaar]

Continuing things.

Empire Strikes Back
Short and sweet S tier.

Return of the Jedi

To this day on of the better space battles ever committed to film. Not quite as good as the previous two films. One of the more meaningful lightsaber combat as well. A Tier.

Ewoks: Caravan of Courage, Battle for Endor.

While aimed at children even in the 80's as a child you knew they weren't as good. Watched now they're kinda awful. Other Star Wars films may not have the best reputation but they're better than these two. D Tier. They're on Disney+ these days.

 

[Horwath]

S: 4,5
A: 6, Rogue1,
B:Mando
C:3,7
D:1,8
E: 2,9

 

[wicked cool]

Empire strikes back
last few minutes of rogue 1
New Hope
mandalorian
return of the jedi
some of the cartoon stories from all series (the introduction of grievous before the chokehold was action sequence )

Boba fett-story wasnt good and the character was that likeable for a bad guy.

solo has few good moments

the rest i avoid or would only watch i had 2 as the other streaming services have better content on a smaller budget

 

[Zardnaar]

Prequel trilogy time.

The Phantom Menace.

This movie has a lot of problems. The disappointment was very real in 1999. It's not a good movie and one can think it's D/F tier terrible. Well there's worse movies and that fact keeps it out of the bottom tier earning a ranking of C.

Attack of The Clones.
Wasn't good at the time and the special effects have aged terribly. And the dialogue. Generally regarded as one the worst of the main movies. AotC gets a D tier ranking. Video game was kinda fun though.

Revenge of the Sith

Generally viewed as the best of the prequel trilogy I quite like this movie. It's not great but has a satisfying conclusion, some great scenes and is a dark film as far as Star Wars films go. B Tier.

 

[Zardnaar]

More or less going in order of release.

Clone Wars (animated film)
Well if you thought Attack of the Clones was bad this is worse. On the plus side it was the debut of Ahsoka. D Tier.

The Clone Wars (series).

This was a great TV show generally well regarded by the fans. The best if it is S tier up there with the Empire Strikes back. BUT not all of it is that good eg season 1 and whole chunks of the following bseasons. Overall still great but I'm giving it an A.

Rebels.

Probably bovetlooked at time of release but seems to be reasonably popular now. It was kind of a sequel to the clone wars and set up the Mandalorian as well. Unlike the clone wars it has a way better season one and all of the main cast get a story arc and it also has a great conclusion. Overall I think this is some of the best Star Wars on screen and I'm giving it an S due to consistency over the Clone Wars.

These three shows feature Ahsoka Tano heavily and her story continues in the Mandalorian. I'd you like her story arc it's been going for 14 years now. And she's getting her own show. If you like it it's for a similar reason legends fans like the OT adventures for 20 odd years post Heir to the Empire.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

As someone whose not a star wars fan, I find internet gossip about the behind the scenes drama at Disney far, far more entertaining then any of the series. I don't even care if it's true or not. I will say Baby Yoda is cute

 

[Zardnaar]

As someone whose not a star wars fan, I find internet gossip about the behind the scenes drama at Disney far, far more entertaining then any of the series. I don't even care if it's true or not. I will say Baby Yoda is cute

Baby Yoda's a green money printing machine.

Or at least his relationship with Mando is.

 

[TheAlkaizer]

My opinion is that most of the Star Wars stuff that came out was adequate as movies or shows, but pretty terrible as Star Wars media. Disney released some mind-numbing bad content. There's often some cool moments sprinkled in there, but it's pretty bad. It's the Hollywood tasteless and bland treatment applied to Star Wars.

The sequel trilogy are atrociously bad. They have cool moments, but they absolutely naughty word on some of the legacy of the original six movies and they're just unquestionably bad movies. Some people enjoyed them, which I'm fine with, but they're stuck out of my head canon.

Rogue One is definitely tolerable, but I tend to not like it as much as many do. It's definitely one of the most palatable things Disney has released. But I have no intention of watching it again.

Solo, surprisingly I enjoyed. It did things differently and it explored some parts of the universe I was curious about. Not great, but definitely decent.

The Mandalorian is probably the best thing Disney has released? It's very uneven but there's really good and really bad episodes out there. It's probably the only thing I tolerate.

The Boba Fett and Kenobi shows were overall pretty bad too. I thought the first few episodes of Boba Fett were really good with how they explored the culture of the sand people, but it devolved into a terrible mess. Kenobi was such a let down, the big scene at the end of the last episode was really good, but it can't save a poorly written show.

 

[Zardnaar]

My opinion is that most of the Star Wars stuff that came out was adequate as movies or shows, but pretty terrible as Star Wars media. Disney released some mind-numbing bad content. There's often some cool moments sprinkled in there, but it's pretty bad. It's the Hollywood tasteless and bland treatment applied to Star Wars.

The sequel trilogy are atrociously bad. They have cool moments, but they absolutely naughty word on some of the legacy of the original six movies and they're just unquestionably bad movies. Some people enjoyed them, which I'm fine with, but they're stuck out of my head canon.

Rogue One is definitely tolerable, but I tend to not like it as much as many do. It's definitely one of the most palatable things Disney has released. But I have no intention of watching it again.

Solo, surprisingly I enjoyed. It did things differently and it explored some parts of the universe I was curious about. Not great, but definitely decent.

The Mandalorian is probably the best thing Disney has released? It's very uneven but there's really good and really bad episodes out there. It's probably the only thing I tolerate.

The Boba Fett and Kenobi shows were overall pretty bad too. I thought the first few episodes of Boba Fett were really good with how they explored the culture of the sand people, but it devolved into a terrible mess. Kenobi was such a let down, the big scene at the end of the last episode was really good, but it can't save a poorly written show.

Not up to them yet but yeah BoBF was disappointing.

Some things on this list are there because there's worse things so they're comparatively better.

Eg something rated B is there because it's better than C. The C thing has that rating because it's better than D.

Basically it's relative to other Star Wars and I agree Solo is better than a lot of other SW stuff but I'll get there eventually.

Some stuff will also get a Bbrating because it's not as good as A tier and the A tier stuff isn't as good as the S tier stuff.

And it's all subjective as well. But there's some shockingly bad SW stuff worse than the internet hyperbole indicates.

 

[Maxperson]

How good or bad is Star Wars post Disney in term of TV shows and movies?

It's probably safe to say there's been some misfires. BUT Lucas himself made multiple erm crap Star Wars content. I would argue the worst of Disney Star Wars is no worse than the worst of what Lucas came up with.

There's only one thing to do. Tier list!!! Not covering things like video games, comics, books etc or the Stat Wars Holiday special only the movies and TV shows.

The tier levels

S: Best of the Best

A: Very good but there's better.

B: Still generally good

C: Has some major problems the negatives outweigh the good.

D: Generally a hard movie to watch. Might have a great scene or two but overall a bad movie possibly even painful to watch.

Episodes I, II and III, and VII, VIII and IX are rated at C by me. So as far as movies in the original storyline go, Disney as tied with Lucas with regard to additional content. However, Rogue One was great, and I know this will get me in some trouble, but I really liked Solo, so Disney edges it out with total movie content.

As far as series go, Disney is doing really well. I liked The Mandalorian seasons a lot, and the episodes of Book of Boba Fett that dealt with the Mandalorian. The rest of Boba Fett was junk. Obi-Wan knocked it out of the park, though. Best of the Disney shows so far.

 

[Zardnaar]

Episodes I, II and III, and VII, VIII and IX are rated at C by me. So as far as movies in the original storyline go, Disney as tied with Lucas with regard to additional content. However, Rogue One was great, and I know this will get me in some trouble, but I really liked Solo, so Disney edges it out with total movie content.

As far as series go, Disney is doing really well. I liked The Mandalorian seasons a lot, and the episodes of Book of Boba Fett that dealt with the Mandalorian. The rest of Boba Fett was junk. Obi-Wan knocked it out of the park, though. Best of the Disney shows so far.

People don't seem to hate Solo and it seems a few kinda like it. It's not great but compared to the bad SW movies it's great lol.

Obi Wan on the fence between a B+ and A-. I liked it. It's either the best of the B tier or worst of the A tier ymmv I'll have to think about it.

 

[Zardnaar]

The Force Awakens.
The more I watch this movie the worse it gets while others get better eg Solo. Not bad as such but it's not that original and it's a bit to familiar recycling ANH. Scrapes in with a B rating just because there's a lot worse and it's kinda fun at the end of the day. Generally regarded as the best of the Sequel Trilogy.

Rogue One.

Generally regarded as the best if the Disney movies I think it's a legit great Star Wars movie. I liked it on release and have enjoyed subsequent rewatched. Scrapes into S tier for me as I like it better than the other A tier options.

The Last Jedi.

One of those divisive love it or hate it additions to the franchise. The main problem imho us it's a poor follow up to TFA that deconstructs star Wars. Which is fine in theory but not so much in a trilogy or part 8 of a series marketed as the Skywalker saga. A few concepts here are also fine just poorly executed or in the wrong movie. C rating hyperbole aside its not the worse movie in the franchise.

Solo.
Broadly speaking this is a fun movie. Almost scrapes into A tier but I'm rating it a B but it's at the top of the B tier imho.