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[SkidAce]

For a game like D&D, I am pretty sure any sensitivity reader in 2024 would raise big concerns about both Honor and Sanity mechanics on the spot for having problematic historical roots.

The designers could substitute in a Loyalty mechanic that DMs could reflavor as Honor or Sanity, but they would probably avoid usage of either of those particular terms.

Honor is problematic?

 

[Guest 7037866]

Honor is problematic?

Everything is to someone...

 

[The Myopic Sniper]

Honor is problematic?

Here is probably more information than you might need on the topic, but "honor" mechanics have inspired a lot of debate in some spaces in recent years especially when they are meant to be a mechanic paired with Asian cultures which seemed the intention in the 2014 DMG and in D&D historically.

Asians Read...AD&D Oriental Adventures (Part 6): Honour, Arms, & Armour

 

[SkidAce]

Here is probably more information than you might need on the topic, but "honor" mechanics have inspired a lot of debate in some spaces in recent years especially when they are meant to be a mechanic paired with Asian cultures which seemed the intention in the 2014 DMG and in D&D historically.

Asians Read...AD&D Oriental Adventures (Part 6): Honour, Arms, & Armour

Thanks

 

[Kobold Avenger]

Honor is problematic?

It can give some very inaccurate and offensive views about how certain cultures and people are.

 

[tetrasodium]

Here is probably more information than you might need on the topic, but "honor" mechanics have inspired a lot of debate in some spaces in recent years especially when they are meant to be a mechanic paired with Asian cultures which seemed the intention in the 2014 DMG and in D&D historically.

Asians Read...AD&D Oriental Adventures (Part 6): Honour, Arms, & Armour

That honor is not the same honor & sanity mechanic noted in post 450. You linked to a video about a section from the 2e oriental adventures. It would have been more surprising if something from that book was not somehow offensive to someone.

With that said, a reputation mechanic is not "problematic"... Of course the honor mechanic in the 2014 DMG left a lot to be desired from a purely mechanical standpoint.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Here is probably more information than you might need on the topic, but "honor" mechanics have inspired a lot of debate in some spaces in recent years especially when they are meant to be a mechanic paired with Asian cultures which seemed the intention in the 2014 DMG and in D&D historically.

Asians Read...AD&D Oriental Adventures (Part 6): Honour, Arms, & Armour

Again, just about everything is problematic to someone. It's a matter of how much ability said someone's have to affect sales that determines what actually happens.

 

[bedir than]

Again, just about everything is problematic to someone. It's a matter of how much ability said someone's have to affect sales that determines what actually happens.

Not everything is "problematic to someone."
Suggesting this is just a cop out to not put in the efforts to treat people well.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Not everything is "problematic to someone."
Suggesting this is just a cop out to not put in the efforts to treat people well.

Fair enough, that was overly glib and I apologize. The fact is, a thing that some people find problematic is far more likely to be changed if the people who find it so are populous enough or loud enough to affect the sales of the product. That's what I tried (and failed) to say there.

 

[Guest 7037866]

Suggesting this is just a cop out to not put in the efforts to treat people well.

Or people just care to... it happens.