DMG to include a "starter town".

[Remathilis]

I notice that most of the discussion about iconic towns doesn't include much reference to FR. Why not Shadowdale? I'm no Elminster or FR fan, but wouldn't that count as iconic?

The setting-neutral aspect (and the fact the FRCS is coming out in a month or two later) has led most people to shy away from setting-specific areas (like Shadowdale, Barovia, Sharn, etc.)

You could argue (and most likely win) that Hommlett, Restenford, etc are GH specific, but it seems they are not against picking the choicest bits off the rotting corpse that is Oerth...

 

[Gentlegamer]

Hell, this could Mearls's chance to do Keep on the Borderlands "the way it should be" . . .

Let's see HIS 4D&D version where he "pwns" Gary's design.

 

[Remathilis]

Hell, this could Mearls's chance to do Keep on the Borderlands "the way it should be" . . .

Let's see HIS 4D&D version where he "pwns" Gary's design.

Isn't that coming out in April?

 

[Cthulhudrew]

Another vote for Threshold. I used it as a starting point/homebase for years.

I'd love to see it be Threshold myself, though I suspect the suggestion of Hommlet is more likely.

Was Verbobonc ever a really big name in towns? I seem to recall it was for some reason, but I'm not enough of a Greyhawk afficianado to say for sure.

 

[Cthulhudrew]

(Edit: Although Threshold would be pretty cool too, if you could somehow seperate it from it's original context in some way)

Actually, I think it would work out perfectly in its original context (ie, X1/Expert set). The Known World in those days would have meshed pretty well with the "Points of Light" notion. It's only after the development of the world through the Gazetteers and Dragon articles that it became something more substantial and populated (and not really in keeping with PoL).

(Don't get me wrong here- I am probably one of the biggest Mystara boosters around, and I absolutely love how the world developed. I'm just saying that the pre-"Mystara" Known World is actually really close to the concept espoused by the new 4E philosophy as I understand it, and would make a good fit, Threshold included. And I wouldn't be entirely against it being the "base" campaign world, if it were to come to it. I'd just say the version presented represented an older version of the present Mystara.)

 

[Reynard]

Actually, I think it would work out perfectly in its original context (ie, X1/Expert set). The Known World in those days would have meshed pretty well with the "Points of Light" notion. It's only after the development of the world through the Gazetteers and Dragon articles that it became something more substantial and populated (and not really in keeping with PoL).

(Don't get me wrong here- I am probably one of the biggest Mystara boosters around, and I absolutely love how the world developed. I'm just saying that the pre-"Mystara" Known World is actually really close to the concept espoused by the new 4E philosophy as I understand it, and would make a good fit, Threshold included. And I wouldn't be entirely against it being the "base" campaign world, if it were to come to it. I'd just say the version presented represented an older version of the present Mystara.)

I agree. Take a look at the map in the Expert set showing Karameikos. There's more monster names on it than names of towns and cities. You could hit 8th level just on the walk from Threshold to the capital.

 

[gizmo33]

If only there was such a ... guide. hmmmm.

Maybe such a guide could guide you to a store where you could buy a module.

 

[Imperialus]

Maybe such a guide could guide you to a store where you could buy a module.

Maybe you're a high school student with a part time job and you just finished shelling out 60 bucks for a DMG and MM after your cousin told you about it and bought you the PHB for Christmas. Maybe you don't have the cash to buy the module too. Maybe you're trying to get your friends who havn't played before together to give it a try but don't know where to start.

As you might gather I like the idea of the DMG being a bit on the hand holding side. D&D is leaps and bounds more complicated than any game most new players will have played before. I mean think about it, for every D&D player posting how easy it is to learn how many do you think gave up trying after a game or two and left the hobby before even getting started.

How sucessful do you think D&D would become if they managed to keep those new players? Or more importantly, how long do you think it can continue to be sucessful and compete with comptuer games, facebook and umpteen billion cable channels without keeping those new players?

 

[Wormwood]

Maybe such a guide could guide you to a store where you could buy a module.

So the 'everything you need to play in three books' premise isn't actually true?

I expect at least a sample scenario to be included in my $90 RPG purchase, thanks.

 

[dmccoy1693]

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