Satyrn
First Post
"Wait, why are we sneaking into Mordor?"it's a very easy way to ensure that we get the party sneaking into Mordor as a whole, but still ensure that the difference between 'stealthy' and 'loud' characters can be drawn when entering Ungoliant's lair.
or alternatively:
"Wait, what Age are we playing in?"
Unless you decided Ungoliant didn't die before the Third Age and is now shacked up with her daughter. (which would mean that Shelob's mate probably welcomed his death rather than live with his mother in law.)