Stormonu
Legend
+1. I care in that I've read a good bit of the material and it's familiar lore to me. But I'm not married to it and I see it as one interpretation of how the outer planes could be.
Planescape Do You Care About Planescape Lore?
+1. I care in that I've read a good bit of the material and it's familiar lore to me. But I'm not married to it and I see it as one interpretation of how the outer planes could be.
GX.Sigma
Adventurer
Which one(s) do you mean? Githzerai were CN before Planescape. Slaadi were chaotic outsiders before Planescape. Daemons were neutral evil mercenaries before Planescape.
Then I guess you don't like the D&D multiverse, because Planescape is just a crystallisation/solidifying of the AD&D cosmos.
The Disney (convenient) cosmos is not for people such as me.
Seems a lot of people do not like D&D (want to stuff it into a hole it was not meant for).
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The OP is very passive-aggressive, extremely flammable.
So many other RPGs at this point, sick of people trying to turn Monopoly into Trivial Pursuit, or Boggle into Chutes & Ladders or what-have-you.
The Disney (convenient) cosmos is not for people such as me.
Seems a lot of people do not like D&D (want to stuff it into a hole it was not meant for).
.
The OP is very passive-aggressive, extremely flammable.
So many other RPGs at this point, sick of people trying to turn Monopoly into Trivial Pursuit, or Boggle into Chutes & Ladders or what-have-you.
Li Shenron
Legend
Yes we care.
That doesn't means I want it to dictate every monster in the core MM, but rather that I want PS setting to be preserved on its own, which would be done best by not changing it just for the sake of change, like FR gets butchered at every edition. I would rather see PS not republished for 5e if that means they are going to change it just for the sake of it.
BTW, the Great Wheel isn't really default in any edition. The 3e MotP says it at least 100 times that it is just an example and the DM in no way has to abide to it etc etc, but apparently this is not enough to prevent both gamers and designers to still think it's default. In any case, even if it was default, a "default cosmology" really means nothing since it ignoring/changing it has practically zero implications (the only possible exceptions are in spell fluff but not in their mechanics).
That doesn't means I want it to dictate every monster in the core MM, but rather that I want PS setting to be preserved on its own, which would be done best by not changing it just for the sake of change, like FR gets butchered at every edition. I would rather see PS not republished for 5e if that means they are going to change it just for the sake of it.
BTW, the Great Wheel isn't really default in any edition. The 3e MotP says it at least 100 times that it is just an example and the DM in no way has to abide to it etc etc, but apparently this is not enough to prevent both gamers and designers to still think it's default. In any case, even if it was default, a "default cosmology" really means nothing since it ignoring/changing it has practically zero implications (the only possible exceptions are in spell fluff but not in their mechanics).
The Faction War garbage was, well, garbage.
As was The Time of Trouble, Prism Pentad, The Grand Conjunction, The Age of Mortals, Inhuman wars II, and so forth.
The best route to go is stick with the original vision of a campaign setting (the first boxed set/book) before busybody writers try and mar it with their revolting meta-plots.
Kudos to Al-Qadim for staying pure.
As was The Time of Trouble, Prism Pentad, The Grand Conjunction, The Age of Mortals, Inhuman wars II, and so forth.
The best route to go is stick with the original vision of a campaign setting (the first boxed set/book) before busybody writers try and mar it with their revolting meta-plots.
Kudos to Al-Qadim for staying pure.
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Quickleaf
Legend
Haha, three cheers for Al-Qadim!
Btw [MENTION=22779]Hussar[/MENTION], I voted "Yes" on your poll.
The most elegant D&D campaign setting to date, though in today's climate might not go down so well.
Me too, and looks like we are in the majority.
Li Shenron
Legend
Indeed, the first version of a setting is the best.
Because if it succeeded (e.g. Forgotten Realms), the setting doesn't need to change. If it changes, it only splits the fanbase. And if it didn't succeed, nobody's interested in making a new version anyway.
If they want something new to keep the market excited, there is infinite room for new settings. Existing settings should never be changed, only converted, or expanded by "zooming" i.e. adding more and more details on regions, locales, characters...
Exactly, stop meddling, expand/elaborate, don't change, leave that up to us.
In my Forgotten Realms campaign of 26-years, Elminster is dead, and Drizzt works the streets of Calimport as rough trade.
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