Doctor Octopus

I'm very happy with Molina as Doc Ock myself. He's a very fine actor, although I'm yet to see him play a megolomaniac like Ock, I trust him to deliever.
 

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Sagan Darkside said:


That was the rumor for sometime, but it was said more recently it would only be Doc Oc.

Which is good- they need to avoid the disasters of the Batman films.

SD

IIRC, that was the plan (Lizard & Doc Ock) James Cammeron had way back when. I'm surprised that it would turn up again.

And while I totally agree with you that they should just stick to a single villain per movie, a lot Spidey's villains just aren't that strong.

Mysterio, Doc Ock, and Venom could hold a movie (even though I'm not a Venom fan, a killer anti-Spider-Man whose crimes are blamed on Spidey would make a good film). Sadly, Elecktro, Shocker, Hydro-Man, Beetle, Rhino, Lizard, and Sandman aren't really movie caliber foes on their own. The problem is that none of the above have really been given that much of a personality in the comics beyond just being crooks.

And, before anyone says anything, yes, I know the Lizard isn't motivated by money and that the Beetle was given a personality in Thunderbolts, but that was under a different name and as a hero (which tells you how much Marvel thinks of him that they'd be willing to lose him as a villain).

However, I'd be willing to give the producers a chance to come up with something for the bad guys I consider weak and make it work.

Now, I'm not saying that these guys are bad comic villains. The problem is that I can't see them holding together a movie's plot without altering their personalities. For example, Elecktro or Shocker stealing a chemical weapon and holding a city hostage might make a good movie, but terrorism on a gand scale isn't really what they do in the comics.

Anway, one interesting choice is The Vulture. There's Doc Ock potential in him, but I wonder if the audience can accept a 70 yr old guy fighting Spder-Man.

Although, Patrick Steward could probably do it. For that matter, even without superpowers, he could probably kick my butt. :)

Scorpion is another good possibility since he was created with financing by Jameson to bring Spider-Man to "justice". Of course, he goes rogue and becomes a criminal that Spidey must stop. That might work in a movie.
 
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Villano said:

Scorpion is another good possibility since he was created with financing by Jameson to bring Spider-Man to "justice". Of course, he goes rogue and becomes a criminal that Spidey must stop. That might work in a movie.

That is a great choice. Bruce Cambpell would have to play him!

I would disagree on your list with regards to Sandman. He was rather well developed eventually (with Silver Sable... mmmm... Silver Sable...).

The rest of the list would be great introductions in the movie. Similar to how Bond movies open with a big action sequence. Spidey could open with a sequence fighting Elektro or whoever.

Kraven might be fun, but he is light on the super powers.

Spider Slayer could work, but only if they did not use Scorpion- since their stories are too similar.

A Sinister Six movie down the road would be good tying in all the characters used already.

SD
 


Sagan Darkside said:
I would disagree on your list with regards to Sandman. He was rather well developed eventually (with Silver Sable... mmmm... Silver Sable...).

Kraven might be fun, but he is light on the super powers.

Spider Slayer could work, but only if they did not use Scorpion- since their stories are too similar.

A Sinister Six movie down the road would be good tying in all the characters used already.

SD

No help on the name of the Spider Slayer builder, Viking. I can't think of it at all.

And I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the Slayers. They would be great in the same film as Scorpion. After all, it would make sense in a movie to have both be created by the same scientist (they might even have been in the comics for all I know).

First, the Slayers are introduced, but aren't a match for Spidey, so they create Scorpion. During the climax, Scorpion could even unlease one of those huge, tank-sized Slayers at our hero.

And your point about Sandman, Sagan Darkside, is well taken, but again, he wasn't fleshed out until becoming a good guy (or, at least, less bad). As a regular crook, he never really was big league.

Kraven, OTOH, would make an excellent villain. Just amp up his abilities when he's using those "magic herbs" (or whatever they are). You can even do a subplot with Kraven being addicted to this stuff. Add in a sexy, half-naked black girl to play Calypso, Kraven's girlfriend,and I'm so there. :)

Or, if instead of increasing his powers, let him tap into the powers of animals. Strong as an elephant, fast as a cheetah, can climb like a spider...

Someone else I forgot about was Chameleon. A good "brain" villian to team up with one of the "not ready for primetime" bad guys I mentioned before, like Rhino, Shocker, or Elecktro. I know in the comics, Chameleon and Kraven were linked, but Kraven's too strong to tie down with another villain in the same flick.

The Sinister Six would rock, but that would probably be too many foes in one film without stretching it into 3+ hours.

EDIT: The Slayer inventor question got answered while I was writing my post. :)
 
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Villano said:

Add in a sexy, half-naked black girl to play Calypso, Kraven's girlfriend,and I'm so there. :)

The Sinister Six would rock, but that would probably be too many foes in one film without stretching it into 3+ hours.

yeah, Calypso would rule. They could use her in a sequel with the Lizard- using Farlane's DOOM storyline (not the good dr., just the title).

The SinSix would be only good once most of the villians had already been established either in action introductions or actual villians.

It is a real shame all the supes are in different film companies. Crossovers with Spidey are they name of the game.

DD and Spidey would rock.

Heck- use the storyline where Doc Ock got the adamantium arms and a huge list of heroes came together to help fight him (Hulk, FF).

Oh, too dream.

It is still a great time to be a geek.

SD
 

Sagan Darkside said:


That is a great choice. Bruce Cambpell would have to play him!

I thought about this a little. Scorpion's real identity was that of a thug. I can't really picture Campbell playing him.

Mysterio, OTOH, he would be great as! I always thought that Bruce had that "Vincent Price" quality and that would be perfect for the role. I could see him going to town as Mysterio and still playing the part well.

Now, if you want to talk thug, Vin Deisel would be perfect as Scorpion. He just looks like someone who would be given all these superpowers and only think, "Hey, these powers would be great for knocking over liquor stores and picking up chicks." :)

Or, maybe, Vin as Rhino.
 

Thanks for the name Sagan. :)

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I can see Kraven as a good villain for Spidey (as in wanting to hunt down the spider), but I don't think he can really carry a movie all by himself. I'd throw in some scrub villain as well. I can see Spidey trying to stop some second rate baddie, while at the same time being hunted by Kraven himself.
 

Villano said:
Mysterio, OTOH, he would be great as! I always thought that Bruce had that "Vincent Price" quality and that would be perfect for the role. I could see him going to town as Mysterio and still playing the part well.

You are right, but I would rather see Kevin Smith give his DD/Mysterio storyline a script write up for a sequel to DD.

Bruce could still play him though. :)

Vin would make a cool villian- though I am not sure who I would like to see him as.

SD
 

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