Doctor Who 2007: The Sound of Drums

Cthulhudrew said:
Don't think so- they seemed to pretty well move away from any notions of a blood relation between the Doctor and the Master in this episode, without actually spelling it out as such. The Doctor's dismissive "you watch too much television" remark seemed to dispel that idea, I thought.

Yeah, it was a direct in-joke response to the rumours.
 

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The number six billion does seem important. I doubt there were that many Time Lords, as I don't think every Gallifreian was a Time Lord.

Maybe they are Teletubbies... hight of evolution and all that. Just think of it... Six Biiilllliiooooon Teletubbies! Mwa ha ha ha ha ha!
 
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The Grumpy Celt said:
The number six billion does seem important. I doubt there were that many Time Lords, as I don't think every Gallifreian was a Time Lord.

In The Sunmakers, Time Lords are described as "the oligarchic rulers of the planet Gallifrey." In Invasion of Time, the 4th Doctor says "There are men, women...even Time Lords dying out there!"
 

Raven Crowking said:
Still, think Mrs. Saxon is the Rani? The Rani was always smarter than the Master, and better at hiding herself from the Doctor. ;)

It's a theory, but actually- I was thinking she might be Romana. She seems kind of similar in temperament (well, except for aiding a megalomaniac), and her regret over throwing her lot in with him would thus be explainable.

(I don't think it probably will be her, but if the Toclafane do end up being Time Lords, then it could well be.)

I'm still leaning more towards the last humans going to Utopia, though. It truly would break the Doctor's heart that a) this is what became of them when he helped to send them off, and b) he will have to make a choice between either allowing the humans existing on modern Earth to die or destroying the last remnants of humanity from the future.
 

Cthulhudrew said:
It's a theory, but actually- I was thinking she might be Romana. She seems kind of similar in temperament (well, except for aiding a megalomaniac), and her regret over throwing her lot in with him would thus be explainable.

I didn't see it that way.
It seemed that she was human enough, just under some sort of hypnotic suggestion, like when the Doctor asked Jack and Martha why they liked Saxon or what his campaign promises were. She did seem to be on the verge of some realization, but snapped out of it when The Master came in to the room.
Still though, it would be nice to see the return of some of the other Time Lords, especially given that
the Time Lords were able to resurrect The Master to fight in the Time War, they could also have brought back the Meddling Monk, Warmaster and The Rani.
 

Well, this episode contained one horrifying revelation that nobody's mentioned yet:

MARTHA HAS MAN-HANDS!!! The woman of my dreams has thicker callouses on her knuckles than I do.

Oh, and Martha's mom really needs to get her eyebrows plucked. Those things are huge!

Anyway, I think John Simm is a good villain, but...he'll never be The Master to me. To me, the Master is menacing like Dr. Doom or Moriarty, not a capering Jokerish goofball.
 

Felon said:
Well, this episode contained one horrifying revelation that nobody's mentioned yet:

MARTHA HAS MAN-HANDS!!! The woman of my dreams has thicker callouses on her knuckles than I do.

Oh, and Martha's mom really needs to get her eyebrows plucked. Those things are huge!

Anyway, I think John Simm is a good villain, but...he'll never be The Master to me. To me, the Master is menacing like Dr. Doom or Moriarty, not a capering Jokerish goofball.

I have to agree. I watched it again and there just isn't a Master type of vibe coming off him. They are trying to make him too much like the Doctor. As a big fan of the 7th season of Who with Pertwee and Delgado clashing every show I'm not getting into this that much.
 

Felon said:
Anyway, I think John Simm is a good villain, but...he'll never be The Master to me. To me, the Master is menacing like Dr. Doom or Moriarty, not a capering Jokerish goofball.
Uh... you do realize that he just regenerated no? So of course he'd be different from the Master you'd know, much like David Tennant's Tenth Doctor is different from Chris Eccleston's Ninth.

Besides, as I said before, the Master should be in essence the Doctor's dark reflection. So of course he'd be a manic and often cheeky type, just as the Tenth Doctor is often manic and cheeky as well.
 

horacethegrey said:
Uh... you do realize that he just regenerated no? So of course he'd be different from the Master you'd know, much like David Tennant's Tenth Doctor is different from Chris Eccleston's Ninth.

Besides, as I said before, the Master should be in essence the Doctor's dark reflection. So of course he'd be a manic and often cheeky type, just as the Tenth Doctor is often manic and cheeky as well.

Well other than the Doctor most Time Lords have control over their regenerations to a much larger degree than the Doctor who pretty much went in blind due to involuntary regeneration when his body was damaged. Romana was able to control her regeneration to a very fine degree.

The Master is evil and dominating where the Doctor is good, they don't need the Master to try to do a cheap Doctor impression.
 


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