Doctor Who (2020) - spoilers!

[Son of the Serpent]

So the thing im about to mention isnt supposed to be political. Just prefacing with that. Its a major item in the works (if the rumor is true). A major spoiler. But also one that from a business perspective worries me. Because i think it will be highly unpopular. Shows need popularity like we need air. Without it they WILL suffocate.

There is a rumor with a fair bit of weight behind it that a major retcon is in the works to make it such that there was in fact actually a single incarnation of the doctor prior to what weve always thought was the first one. If its true the first doctor will in fact actually have been a female.

Again. Still not getting political.

My question is, regardless of whether you think this would be a cool idea or not, does anyone else else think that just might kill the show? By "kill" i dont mean "make bad". By "kill" i mean cause fan drop off to the point the show is deemed unprofitable.

A third time. NOT POLITICAL. Its business savvy concern. And also just a really big potential spoiler.

 

[Mallus]

My question is, regardless of whether you think this would be a cool idea or not, does anyone else else think that just might kill the show? By "kill" i dont mean "make bad". By "kill" i mean cause fan drop off to the point the show is deemed unprofitable.

Would it kill the show? No. Or at least I seriously doubt it.

Will the show end soon? Probably not. But maybe?

The salient thing is we're now in the 15th(?) year of the Doctor Who revival, and eventually production will cease until the show is resurrected again. When you consider how much the business, audience, and culture has changed since 2005, whatever else you might think about the recent direction & changes on the show, Doctor Who's second act has been a smashing success, and the answer to why it ends when it ends is ultimately going to be: time.

(as for 'retconning' the Doctor's origin, given how the Doctor's story has been added to over time -- pop quiz: in what season, err, series was their home planet/species invented? -- I don't think that's ever the proper term for developments to the character)

 

[Tonguez]

1. I didn't see any definitive link between The Timeless Child and The Doctor, just the Master's say-so.
2. Were there Brain of Morbius stills? I was thinking of that episode, but didn't back up to step through frame-by-frame. If so, group them with Doctor Ruth, but still no definitive ties to The Timeless Child.
3. It's awfully soon to be invalidating The Time of the Doctor.
4. Susan? Clara? I don't think Chibnall has any respect for the established history of the show.

They were Brain of Morbius flashbacks and thats something I really like about the episode. While Chibnall may be upsetting some viewers of the new run, the fact that he has made references back to the old Doctors is just brilliant imho.
The former lives have been referenced a number of times, notably in Brain of Morbius but also through Sylvester McCoys run where he intimates that he was more than just another Time Lord and that he was there at the beginning alongside Omega and Rassilon. It also confirms that the Time Lords are elitist gits who elevated themselves above their Shabogan peers and named themselves Lords of Galifrey and on that point is Tecteun = Omega?

Anyway I liked it and I like the new mystery of Doctor Who? Whittaker has had a fine run as the Doctor and to compare her to Colin Baker is just stupid. Yeah Doctor Ruth was a bit bland but Sacha Dawhans Master was captivating.

(as for 'retconning' the Doctor's origin, given how the Doctor's story has been added to over time -- pop quiz: in what season, err, series was their home planet/species invented? -- I don't think that's ever the proper term for developments to the character)

Troughton era introduces the Time Lords but their home planet isnt named
Its was during the Pertwee era that he mentions the name Galifrey when he first meets Sarah Jane (so season 11).

 

[DwarfHammer]

I literally JUST wanted against do this. Don't post in this thread again, please.

I guess inclusive means no straight white men allowed. Screw your and your forum.

 

[Mallus]

Troughton era introduces the Time Lords but their home planet isnt named
Its was during the Pertwee era that he mentions the name Galifrey when he first meets Sarah Jane (so season 11).

Wow, I didn't realize the name Gallifrey wasn't introduced until season 11. Thanks!

 

[Morrus]

@Son of the Serpent, would you and your seven warnings for anti-inclusive content care to PM me and explain why you "liked" the statement "I guess inclusive means no straight white men allowed. Screw your and your forum"? Am I to assume you share this position?

 

[Son of the Serpent]

Wow, I didn't realize the name Gallifrey wasn't introduced until season 11. Thanks!

Actually i missed that too. Wild...

 

[MNblockhead]

I thought Whitaker did a good job as the Doctor, especially in this season. I really liked Graham as a companion and Yaz is fine. I find Ryan weak and forgettable, just have a hard time caring about his character. My main gripe is that I just didn't find most of the shows in the past two seasons very good. I did, however, like the last three episode of season 12.

 

[Son of the Serpent]

@Son of the Serpent, would you and your seven warnings for anti-inclusive content care to PM me and explain why you "liked" the statement "I guess inclusive means no straight white men allowed. Screw your and your forum"? Am I to assume you share this position?

So...ive actually pm'd you before and i suspect you may not recieve notification when i do so for reasons not established. I would not respond to red text normally in a thread, pinging you (ive realized since the last time i ping'd umbran, i think, thats incorrect) but since im not sure you know i pm'd you thats the only reason im responding in thread. As a courtesy to let you know i pm'd you just a bit ago. I dont respond to mod messages in thread typically anymore. Only doing it with you because im not sure you know i pm'd you. Ok. Thats all i was gonna say. Just trying to let you know.

 

[wicked cool]

I want to apologize to all. I sometimes get carried away with my passions (Dr Who is one).Ive been a huge fan since day 1 of the Tom Baker era .Baker and the Delgado master are probably my favorite heroes and villians from tv