Doctor Who Season 6 (SPOILERS :p)

[horacethegrey]

Morrus: That's an interesting hypothesis, and one I very much agree with! Perhaps Moffat is rebooting the series so that the Doctor doesn't become an all powerful lonely god of the universe, but a traveler who occasionally rights wrongs along the way. I too have gotten tired with this constant "The Oncoming Storm" rep the Doctor's been attached with. Yes, perhaps a return to the series roots is in store.

But enough of that, back to the episode. I like it well enough, but a little disappointed with the ending. I felt the reveal of River's identity lacked the emotional weight a true cliffhanger should have, but I'm reasonably certain Moffat will follow it up well this coming September. What I did like though, were the supporting characters, especially the lady Silurian and her maid! Wouldn't mind seeing a story about how they met up with the Doctor!

 

[Herschel]

Funny, another great post finishes with the line:
" I mean, the guy has one snog in thirty years of saving our
planet and you're all complaining! You utter, utter bastards!!
"
Sex and The Doctor - rec.arts.drwho | Google Groups

 

[Fast Learner]

What I did like though, were the supporting characters, especially the lady Silurian and her maid! Wouldn't mind seeing a story about how they met up with the Doctor!

I can easily imagine enjoying a whole series about Lady Vastra and Jane!

Love the characters, and the Silurian makeup was particularly good: it never actually occurred to me that she was a human actor with a mask.

 

[Plane Sailing]

Re: A Good Man goes To War

Spoiler

Were you not watching the dialog between the Silurian and the Doctor? That explained precisely how River could be partially time Lord.

Nothing to do with biological acts, it was because River was conceived on Amy and Rory's wedding night aboard the Tardis while it was in the time vortex.

 

[Plane Sailing]

Hey, the perils of leaving a browser window open and not getting around to replying to a post for ages!

BTW, Morrus - I like the way you are thinking there.

 

[Diamond Cross]

Spoiler

Were you not watching the dialog between the Silurian and the Doctor? That explained precisely how River could be partially time Lord.

Nothing to do with biological acts, it was because River was conceived on Amy and Rory's wedding night aboard the Tardis while it was in the time vortex.

I'm an episode behind because of Memorial day. So I was just thinking about other posts in other forums that talk about the show.

But I also had a thought.

If the title of the episode is referring to Rory, and NOT The Doctor...

Well, you know how River is often going on about how she had to kill a good man....

If the title is a meaningful clue, I wonder if the good man she actually kills is her father, Rory, and this episode was what started the road down to that path.

BUT... this is simply speculation.

 

[Felon]

Crossposted on CM:

I have a theory. This is all pure speculation, so no spoilers.


I remember some time ago Moffat expressed displeasure that The Doctor had, over recent years, strayed a long way from the "odd man in a blue box putting things right" to "most famous guy in the universe feared by all". I think he's setting about putting that right, taking it back more to its roots.


There's this long theme (from the Pandorica last year to this) of him being so feared by the entire universe that the entire universe allies to take him down. This is the second time that theme's come up, and definitely more than a few times that the "Doctor means 'greatest warrior'" thing comes up. Even when RTD was doing it, the Daleks called him "the destroyer" and stuff, and the "Time Lord Victorious" stuff from the Tennant specials (his own hubris) along with when he destroyed the red spider queen thingy's children in the Xmas special with Donna and she had to get him to stop. Add in the Time War stuff, the anger he feels at it all, and so on.


Eye Patch Woman refers to this long war against the Doctor. A war he wasn't even aware of. And the Clerics when we first met them weren't bad guys (and they made a point of humanising them with the fat-thin couple to remind us of that).


I think this season is about ending all that. The Doctor is being shown what he has become - he's now the villain of the piece. Moffat's building him up into the perfect aggressor, Galactus-style, and he's going to realise that his actions and his existence are actually destructive.


And, I'm going out on a limb here - I think that's why he'll arrange to have himself killed on that beach. Though there will be some timey-wimey rebooting effect of that, because they won't end the show.


Next year, I postulate, he won't be the most famous and feared being in all creation any more. He'll just be a mad man in a blue box who sets things right.

An excellent observation and I hope your prediction comes to fruition.

So, I watched the season to date marathon style, along with the new Sherlock Holmes, and it left me wondering: are gay couples now the hip, trendy, BBC diversity thing that I should expect to see slipped in somewhat ham-fistedly?

 

[Tyranthraxus]

Felon: That has been the way on English TV shows for a looooong time now. It definetly is not the norm on American tv.


I sometimes wonder if Im watching the same Doctor Who as everyone else. This season to me has probably been the worst since the reboot of the series. Plot pointing disregarded in pursuit of crazy outcomes or events and companions that do bizarre things.

(ie the Cybermen. The Doctor had to destroy the whole fleet so Rory could get the location of Amy? Isnt the Doctor a um.. Time Traveller with many friends who could provide such info?)

In fact the only episode I have enjoyed this season was the Doctors Wife. That was really really good. The episode with the Doctor going to war was eh. He brought in supposed favors and those 'people' did.. well ... bugger all really. I know we only have under an hour to play with here but well.. was a little sad them doing so little. Headless Monks idea? eh. Doctor able to sneak in as A Monk? Predictable!

As for the Humans turning on the Doctor.. how many times has he saved their ass? Stahlman Gas, Dalek Invasion, Dalek Invasion, Cyberinvasion, Slitheen etc etc.

Im actually hoping that Rory stays on as the companion without Amy.

 

[Mallus]

Plot pointing disregarded in pursuit of crazy outcomes or events and companions that do bizarre things.

The plot point disregard (disintegration?) I can totally agree with. But when did his companions do bizarre things?

(ie the Cybermen. The Doctor had to destroy the whole fleet so Rory could get the location of Amy? Isnt the Doctor a um.. Time Traveller with many friends who could provide such info?)

The logic of that scene is entirely self-contained, the logic of pure (blockbuster) cinema, things blowing up accompanied by one-liners. Taken as an example of the form, wasn't it a thing of beauty?

Besides, only making partial sense is a beloved convention of the genre.

As for the Humans turning on the Doctor.. how many times has he saved their ass? Stahlman Gas, Dalek Invasion, Dalek Invasion, Cyberinvasion, Slitheen etc etc.

A future political entity turning on the Doctor out of fear, paranoia, and short-sighted self-preservation was the single most believable element of the episode!

 

[Herschel]

A future political entity turning on the Doctor out of fear, paranoia, and short-sighted self-preservation was the single most believable element of the episode!

Not only that, but it's fairly allegorical to repeated happenings in human history (both real and yeah, even from the show).