does a nice, shy, meek guy have a chance in hell?

Aaron L said:
i think my big goal will be a kiss befre i turn 30 in 4 months. god doesnt that sound awful?

Nope, that dosen't sound awful. It sounds like a step in the right direction.

Make sure you write down down your goal deadline on your calender or simply somewhere you can see it on a daily basis. Every time you look at it, think to yourself "What have I done lately to help reach this goal?"

You can do this, Aaron. We're all pulling for you. :)
 

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1. Ask your mom to give you a list of all your doctors' phone numbers and addresses.
2. Ask your mom for custody of all your meds.
3. Call the people who run your disability program and ask if they, or an agency they can direct you to, can train you in setting up a routine for taking your medication.
4. Set up a profile on Yahoo! and other free internet dating sites.
5. Make an appointment with your psychiatrist about getting back on anti-depressants. Also ask him/her for advice on setting up your own medication-taking routine.
6. Book a time to visit your brother in Pittsburg and get the lay of the land there in terms of rent, cost of living, etc. to see what it would take to move there.
7. Call your female friend whom you've been losing touch with.Let me recommend a goal that you can choose to achieve, that does not have to be contingent on another person but will nevertheless help you to take women down off that pedestal:
8. While you're in Pittsburg, go to a strip bar and buy yourself a lapdance as an early 30th birthday present; actually, try and talk your brother into buying it for you.
Put this on a word document.

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Tape to mirror.

Always remember the one true thing: "I am the ultimate tool using predator. With the proper tools, no other creature on the planet can stand before me. Even the mighty gorrilla falls before my might. I am a human, the ultimate tool using predator."
 


I was just trying to be optimistic and a littl self deprecating, not passive/aggressive, honest! :)

As for my clothes, I really need to get new ones. They arent all that great, but honestly its the same things all nthe guys around here wear. The only thing I have different is my bright red converse all stars, but i kinda like them, and i get compliments on them. i use old spice aftershave. I got some body spray recently, a generic kind because its all i could find at the time, but I use it. If you have any advice on aftershave or similiar things Ill definately follow it immediately. I also know I need a haircut desperately, my hair is thick mass of ungainlyness. I just dont have a clue as to what to do with the mess.

My grooming could probably use some improving. I mean my hair and clothes, I shower and shave regularly, and I definately dont stink (at least I hope not!)


and skanks and such are NOT words I normally use, I was just in a foul mood at the time, and honestly the women I had seen that night definately fit the general description. Dont worry that Im one to refer to women as "bitches." :) At the worst Ill end up saying girls, but then Ill probably be saying guys instead of men, too.

And thanks for teh list hehe :)
 
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Warlord Ralts said:
I've met women that I introduced to the back seat of my car for some comparisons on body temperature at the dart board.

The women who want to share themselves with me, be it necking in the back of the bar or full throw down flesh pressing, are friendly. Maybe over friendly, but friendly. They are nice to me, and I should be nice to them.

He may be quiet, shy in public, but inside there, he's swaggering around with his peg leg, specially outfitted artificial hand, with a stripper dancing on his shoulder going "Yar, give me yer booty!"
Dude, you rock. :lol:

You were the electric shot of bad fun this thread needed! *pours a cold one, toasts Warlord Ralts*

Warrior Poet
 

Aaron L said:
I got some body spray recently, a generic kind because its all i could find at the time, but I use it.

If you can, try to find some TAG Body Spray. I don't think it's as effective as the commercials would lead you to believe (I've never been tackled by women in the supermarket), but since I started wearing it, it does seem like girls are paying more attention to me (and if I spray it on before a date, I seem to get a little more "attention" than I do if I don't wear it ;) ).
 

Never give up, Aaron. There is someone out there for everyone. Love usually sneaks up on you when you least expect it. I've always believed there is a soulmate out there for everyone and, if you're lucky enough, you'll find them. Anyone can find love if they try hard enough. Anyone.

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Aaron L said:
I also know I need a haircut desperately, my hair is thick mass of ungainlyness. I just dont have a clue as to what to do with the mess.
I said I was going to shut up further on this thread with the suggestions. So much for saying.

Dude, you don't have to know what to do with it: that's what barbers/hair stylists are for! What I recommend is going to get a haircut and asking the person who cuts your hair what to do with it, and then say, "OK, that sounds great. Do it." Then let the professional do their job. You may not know what looks good on you (yet), but chances are they can help, and once they do, you're armed for the future. When you get home, if you like the haircut (if you don't, it will grow back, unless you're going bald, in which case it's irrelevant), take a photo of yourself so that in the future you can go into a barbershop/hair salon anywhere in the country, hand them the photo, and say, "I want this haircut."

Same thing with clothes. Go to a nice store (doesn't have to be super expensive, but frankly, if you're going to look . . . better . . . you're going to pay for it a bit. That's o.k. Good clothes are [mostly] well made, and will last a while) and ask the people there what would look good on you. Better yet, ask a woman who works there what would look good on you, and then have her help you pick the stuff out. Trust me, women know what looks good on men. Which is not to say be a slave to what she says. You still have to find the stuff that you like, BUT, that's why you talk to the salesperson, who will show you what looks good, and then ask you if you like it. If they don't ask you that, and you don't like it, SAY SO, and find something else. But use that resource! Then, once again, you're armed for the future!

Warrior Poet
 

Aaron L said:
I also know I need a haircut desperately, my hair is thick mass of ungainlyness. I just dont have a clue as to what to do with the mess.


Have you considered this?
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Aaron L said:
As for my clothes, I really need to get new ones.
That right there tells me something. If you have the money for new clothing, and aren't buying it, it can be because you don't feel that you are worth it. (A common sign of long term depression that I've noticed, but probably isn't listed any where)

Start small, 2 pair of jeans, 2 T shirts, 2 button up shirts, 1 pair of slacks, 1 dress shirt, a tie.

Don't get the latest fashions in jeans, don't get T-shirts with logo's, designs, slogans. Go for 1 white one to wear under the button up shirts, one of another color. Grab two different colored T-shirts and ask the lady who works in the department better suits your coloring. Ask her if the color of the jeans fits your coloring, and ask if the button up shirts go with both the pants and your coloration. (I can't wear brown or green) With the slacks, go for black, and a dark gray dress shirt, and a tie that the sales lady thinks fits. Also purchase two flannel shirts, one blue, the other another dark color.

May I suggest Ross as the clothing store if your budget is tight.

Get a belt from either the Harley Davidson store, or from Hot Topic, in addition to two normal belts.

Buy a set of boots, buy a set of dress shoes.

Buy black socks for the DRESS SHOES and new socks. Those old socks need to go.

Get rid of your old underwear. Buy yourself jockey shorts. Get one or two plaid patterened one, then treat yourself to a pair of Homer Simpson or Spongebob ones. Wear those when the morning starts out like crap.

Others here can probably give you hotter fashion tips, but the above is a good set of everyday stuff.

And you don't have to wait for a job interview or something to dress in slacks, dress shirt, and tie. Sometimes just going grocery shopping or somewhere with a friend, like the mall, it can be nice and make you feel better about yourself if you dress up.

They arent all that great, but honestly its the same things all nthe guys around here wear.
NO! *whap* BAD GRASSHOPPER! NO! *whap*

YOU ARE NOT THEM!

Get what looks good on YOU!
The only thing I have different is my bright red converse all stars, but i kinda like them, and i get compliments on them.
Keep them. Buy a speedwalking outfit. Sweats and a T-shirt work.

i use old spice aftershave.
NO! *whap* BAD GRASSHOPPER! NO! *whap*

Old spice is worn by old guys, married goons like me, or bought for dad's by kids.

I've used the same aftershave for 20 years, but that's me. But Old Spice? YUCK! The girls I know call it "Eude de Loser"

I got some body spray recently, a generic kind because its all i could find at the time, but I use it. If you have any advice on aftershave or similiar things Ill definately follow it immediately.

OK. Here's some advice.

Wear one of your old T-shirts. Go jogging. Do NOT wash it. Change, shower, use soap. (Dial is always a good beginners choice. not perfumey or fancy, but straight forward clean. Women love a man who smells clean) Get dressed decent. Put sweaty smelling shirt in ziplock bag so as not to offend others. Go to a department store.

On your hunt for new clothing, ask the sales girl to follow you to the aftershave/deoderant section. Explain that you are making sure that your body chemistry reacts correctly with the deodorant/body spray/after shave.

Spritz some on a sweaty spot on the shirt. Count to 10. Sniff. Watch the girl's face for those 10 seconds. If she wrinkles her nose, it's not the right one.

Try several different. Despite the commercials, Axe is pretty good. I sweat like a horse and smell like a Puma after I excersize or on a hot day, and Axe keeps me from smelling like I just got back from lion taming.

Choose one that smells OK. If you can ramp up the courage, ask her how things smell.

Now, for the biggest advice...

Aftershave is one thing, but cologne/body spray is another...

The commercials for the body spray show people just slathering it on like an exterminator trying to get rid of an ant infestation. That's incorrect.

Spray above the head and in front of you one spritz. Step through the cloud.

There, that's enough cologne.

Body spray: Quick hits to each armpit, bottom of the feet. Quick spray across the butt cheeks. Maybe a hit across the back if your back gets sweaty. If you can count out loud to two, you've sprayed too long.

NEVER use it to cover up body odor. Always apply after a shower, before putting on CLEAN clothing.

Make sure that the shower soap/gel, shampoo, laundry soap you use, dryer sheets you use, aftershave, cologne, body spray you use COMPLIMENT ONE ANOTHER!

I know some things make sets, check into those.
I also know I need a haircut desperately, my hair is thick mass of ungainlyness. I just dont have a clue as to what to do with the mess.
Flat top. Go to the barber, tell them you want a flat top. It's easy to maintain, and looks right.

Other than that, I have no clue. My hair has been short all my life.

My grooming could probably use some improving. I mean my hair and clothes, I shower and shave regularly, and I definately dont stink (at least I hope not!)


and skanks and such are NOT words I normally use, I was just in a foul mood at the time, and honestly the women I had seen that night definately fit the general description. Dont worry that Im one to refer to women as "bitches." :) At the worst Ill end up saying girls, but then Ill probably be saying guys instead of men, too.
Good, you're already ahead of many, many socially defunct people.

And thanks for teh list hehe :)
No trouble, I'm waiting for the mailman and for my TV show to come on.


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Funny as this may sounds, you aren't the first person I've helped. You should see some of the social misfits I ended up as room mates with, or I got handed in my squad. There was plenty of guys I took the PX and gave basic guidelines on hygiene and dressing right too.

Nothing worse than a 19 year old man who doesn't even know how to dress himself.
 
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