Does miracle cost XP when killing Mr. T?

[Merkuri]

The campaign I was in recently ended with us slaying the Tarrasque. When we knocked him unconscious, an NPC supplied us with the needed miracle spell to permanently slay him, because none of those spells were in reach of the PCs at the time.

After the campaign was over, I looked up the miracle spell in the SRD. It notes that some uses of the spell, like duplicating any spell effect 7th level or lower, costs no XP, but other uses, like moving all allies and their gear through planar barriers without chance of failure, has an XP cost of 5,000. A thought occured to me. Does killing the Tarrasque with miracle cost XP? The question is irrelevant to our campaign, since the spell was cast by an NPC and the campaign ended just after that anyway, but I was just curious what others thought.

 

[phindar]

I'd say yeah. You're not using it to duplicate a lower level spell or heal a condition, you're using it in the Wish/Miracle sense of doing an impossible thing, killing an unkillable creature.

 

[James McMurray]

When my players in a Bloodstone Mines campaign killed him, I made it cost 5,000xp. There are no lower level spells that can duplicate killing him, so it's automatically a powerful request.

 

[Presto2112]

When my players in a Bloodstone Mines campaign killed him, I made it cost 5,000xp. There are no lower level spells that can duplicate killing him, so it's automatically a powerful request.

So in other words, no spellcaster PC in their right mind would ever want to face the Tarrasque in combat, because they'd end up losing more XP froim the Wish / Miracle than they'd ever gain from defeating it.

Nice.

 

[Merkuri]

So in other words, no spellcaster PC in their right mind would ever want to face the Tarrasque in combat, because they'd end up losing more XP froim the Wish / Miracle than they'd ever gain from defeating it.

Nice.

Um, unless you were playing the game for the story, and not for the XP.

 

[James McMurray]

So in other words, no spellcaster PC in their right mind would ever want to face the Tarrasque in combat, because they'd end up losing more XP froim the Wish / Miracle than they'd ever gain from defeating it.

Yeah, that's right. Sucks to be a high level spellcaster capable of casting wishes and miracles, don't it?

 

[xmanii]

Um, unless you were playing the game for the story, and not for the XP.

What he said.

 

[Merkuri]

Um, unless you were playing the game for the story, and not for the XP.

What he said.

"She" said.

 

[Cabled]

So in other words, no spellcaster PC in their right mind would ever want to face the Tarrasque in combat, because they'd end up losing more XP froim the Wish / Miracle than they'd ever gain from defeating it.

Nice.

As compared to all those other uses of the spell that will yield more exps than it costs. Or maybe all those other impossible events it might duplicate when needed that cost no exp.

Believe it or not, some things have a price

 

[Notmousse]

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