DR Who. Last of the timelords (30/06/07) [ major spoilers ]


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Grog said:
The relevance is that everyone on Earth had to be thinking about the Doctor at the same time. And if (big if, since I don't recall seeing anything to confirm this) the Master's countdown was being seen around the world, that might have been the only way to achieve the kind of synchronicity needed to make it work.

Incidentally, in order to meet every single person on the planet in a year (given that 10% had been killed at the end of the last episode, so assuming 5.4 billion people), she would have had to meet 171 people per second, every second.

Plus, then there were the sizeable percentage who were probably happy with the new world order, and the vast majority who just didn't care, either out of apathy or the remaining hypnosis of the Archangel network.
 

delericho said:
Incidentally, in order to meet every single person on the planet in a year (given that 10% had been killed at the end of the last episode, so assuming 5.4 billion people), she would have had to meet 171 people per second, every second.

For what it's worth, they didn't say she spoke to everyone. They said she spoke to people all across the world, and asked them to tell the story in turn. She was a "patient zero," but not the only carrier.
 

Mouseferatu said:
For what it's worth, they didn't say she spoke to everyone. They said she spoke to people all across the world, and asked them to tell the story in turn. She was a "patient zero," but not the only carrier.

Plus, as we saw on the show, it's not like she talked to each person individually, but probably did so at least in part collectively- like when she was speaking to the entire group of rebels in the household.

The process was viral.
 

I just finished watching the season...wow.


I have to thank Russell T. Davies for jump starting the new Dr. Whos, but I really am enjoying other writers. My favorites from this season were:
  • "Blink" by Steven Moffat (my fiance was really scared by this one.)
  • "The Family of Blood" by Paul Cornell (I love how the Dr punished the family)
  • "The Shakespeare Code" by Gareth Roberts (I love all the media references)
  • I even liked "The Lazarus Experiment" by Stephen Greenhorn though I thought the episode weak. I just enjoyed the cthulhu aspect.

Having said that I did enjoy a few things from the last two episodes "The Sound of Drums" & "Last of the Time Lords" by Russell T. Davies. I enjoyed the Master having a wife as a companion with the appearance of a D/s relationship. I enjoyed the 'I win' comment and the Dr's feelings about being alone again. The face of Boe was a nice touch too.
 

Some questions came to mind as I read this thread and thought about the episode:

1. the Master's companion was looking pretty sickly in the last episode. She didn't seem to be able to stand upright on her own, swayed a bit, and there looked to be some bruising under one eye. She also looked vague and malnourished. What's up with that? She seemed like a competent partner ("I already made my choice") in the sound of drums and suddenly she turned into a wet rag a year later?

2. the Doctor tells Jack that he "feels wrong" to him, that there's just something not right about him. But he's never felt odd about the Face of Boe (of course, I suppose that's because they didn't originally intend to have Jack be the Face of Boe, but still..)

3. I'm really glad that Martha stood up to the Doctor and was honest about her feelings and about how he was making her feel about herself. Personally, although I like Martha, her snarky remarks and lovelorn looks would have gotten very tedious after a while.

With regards to the ease of fixing the Tardis - maybe it has something to do with the sentience of the time machine itself, which also seems rather fond of him ("We had to save our doctor"). So maybe the fix the Master would have had to make to the Tardis would have required the cooperation of the Tardis itself - hence the ease with which the Doctor fixed it whereas the Master could only encase it in machinery to force it to suit his purpose.

I think I had something else but I've forgotten already.. :)

/ali
 

Jubilee said:
2. the Doctor tells Jack that he "feels wrong" to him, that there's just something not right about him. But he's never felt odd about the Face of Boe (of course, I suppose that's because they didn't originally intend to have Jack be the Face of Boe, but still..)

It could be because, at the time the Doctor meets the Face, Boe is already on his last legs and is close to dying, so is no longer quite as unnatural as Jack currently is.

Or, it could be that he just thought it might be rude to point that out to someone he'd only just met and wasn't on intimate terms with. :p
 


Fast Learner said:
Ooh, excellent insight. Something clearly seemed off there, and that could be exactly it.

Yeah the relationship appeared to shift from a D/s to a TPE. That probably explains why she changed sides at the end. D/s and TPE are hard to manage successfully. I think the Master was more on top of his game when he had tons of things to manage and after winning, he lost his focus..... success went to his head. Machines are easier to manage than people.

Offtopic a bit but I think the Master would have made a good timelord politician if he could have focused his murderous nature into more practical areas....an Alcibiades type of Timelord.
 

horacethegrey said:
It is a deus ex machina. Reversing the polarity only counts when he actually manipulates the villain's device with his hands and tools, which is certainly not the case here.
I don't know why folks put such value on literalism. The Doctor figures out how to turn the bad guy's own weapon against him, and the tools in this case are simply all the people chanting his name This is a shiny variant on traditional polarity-reversing, but it's polarity-reversing nonetheless.
 
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