Imhotepthewise
Explorer
Paizo: please ease up on the cheese so I may read my Dragon on break at work sometimes without getting dragged into the bosses' office for a sexual harrasment lecture. Thanks.
[Dragon] Lord, the cheese...
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Bagpuss
Legend
Seriously has anyone been dragged into their bosses offer over that (or any other) Dragon cover?
What I find weird is that people get upset over a little bit (okay a big bit) of shoulder showing. When in general D&D has much worse moral content, if you consider its other messages of
1) violence solves most problems
2) Ugly things are generally evil
3) Looting anicent tombs is fine
4) Killing folks to gain wealth is fine, so long as they are evil (see point 2)
What I find weird is that people get upset over a little bit (okay a big bit) of shoulder showing. When in general D&D has much worse moral content, if you consider its other messages of
1) violence solves most problems
2) Ugly things are generally evil
3) Looting anicent tombs is fine
4) Killing folks to gain wealth is fine, so long as they are evil (see point 2)
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Desdichado
Hero
There's been more blatantly cheesecake covers in recent years -- I'm still a bit miffed about the Zug piece on the world-building issue with that lady wearing a piece of tape as a top and pounding a planet with a giant chisel. That was gratuitous. The succubus is pretty tame by comparison.
barsoomcore
Unattainable Ideal
Mm, a tame succubus...Joshua Dyal said:
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Oh, sorry. Please, everyone go back to taking this really seriously.
Bagpuss
Legend
How is that cover any worse than say...
The cleavage and leather strapping on the Steam Elf #277
The amount of flesh showing on #280, #282, #285, #287, #289, #293, #294, #298, #301.
Or going back a bit further picking some of the Dragon Archive #38, #47, #52 (completely nude woman), #238, #236, #232...
I could go on and on. The quality of Dragon's cover art hasn't always been that great either.
Really I think this cover is no worse than loads that were done under TSR and Wizards before hand.
The cleavage and leather strapping on the Steam Elf #277
The amount of flesh showing on #280, #282, #285, #287, #289, #293, #294, #298, #301.
Or going back a bit further picking some of the Dragon Archive #38, #47, #52 (completely nude woman), #238, #236, #232...
I could go on and on. The quality of Dragon's cover art hasn't always been that great either.
Really I think this cover is no worse than loads that were done under TSR and Wizards before hand.
Painfully
First Post
Elmore, Parkinson, and Clydewell were all good with women 
Bring'em back, I say! The current portrait-style of covers doesn't inspire me at all. The succubus included.
So, is the new trend to immitate covers like Cosmo? Or are we gonna go back to the good stuff and have covers that can tell a story with a single picture? Portraits are boring. Give me a picture that is worth 1,000 words!
Bring'em back, I say! The current portrait-style of covers doesn't inspire me at all. The succubus included.So, is the new trend to immitate covers like Cosmo? Or are we gonna go back to the good stuff and have covers that can tell a story with a single picture? Portraits are boring. Give me a picture that is worth 1,000 words!
Elder-Basilisk
First Post
Is it really defending Dragon to say that it's always been like this? I think that really just begs the question of whether it ought to be like this.
After all, it wouldn't sound very impressive if the New York Times or Washington Post were caught making up front page stories about candidates the day before an election (something like "Hillary caught driving drunk, throws dog into oncoming traffic" or "Clinton Rushes into Burning Building to Save Forgotten Baby!" and someone said "Oh, but it's always been like that. Look at 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000 etc."
After all, it wouldn't sound very impressive if the New York Times or Washington Post were caught making up front page stories about candidates the day before an election (something like "Hillary caught driving drunk, throws dog into oncoming traffic" or "Clinton Rushes into Burning Building to Save Forgotten Baby!" and someone said "Oh, but it's always been like that. Look at 1980, 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000 etc."
Bagpuss said:
Painfully said:Elmore, Parkinson, and Clydewell were all good with women
So, is the new trend to immitate covers like Cosmo? Or are we gonna go back to the good stuff and have covers that can tell a story with a single picture? Portraits are boring. Give me a picture that is worth 1,000 words!
I agree 100%. I like the Elmore painting that graced the Companion Rules so much, or the one that had the party with the small dragon hung in a tree and them all bloodied and battered. I do not like the portrait style they've been using. To me D&D is an Epic game and deserving of equally epic pictures, not these busts they've been doing.
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