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Dragon Roots Magazine DIDN'T sell the 4e Killed Gary shirts

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DM-Rocco

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For the record, Dragon Roots Magazine did not sell or wear the, "4e killed Gary," t-shirts. I got a lot of e-mails from people thinking it was our booth, but it was not us.

We did sell shirts, but it was not those ones. It had our in tribute of Gary art from our Issue #1 cover art on the front and the offical GenCon logo along with a quote from Gary "Roll high, Game long" (which was the quote winner from our Gary quote contest we held after he passed away) on the back.

We do have a few left over if people are interested in a purchase but we didn't have anything to do with th, "4e killed Gary," t-shirts. I'm not sure how the rumor got spread, but it wasn't us.
 
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Ranger REG

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For the record, Dragon Roots Magazine did not sell or wear the, "4e killed Gary," t-shirts. I got a lot of e-mails from people thinking it was our booth, but it was not us.

We did sell shirts, but it was not those ones. It had our in tribute of Gary art from our Issue #1 cover art on the front and the offical GenCon logo along with a quote from Gary "Roll high, Game long" (which was the quote winner from our Gary quote contest we held after he passed away) on the back.

We do have a few left over if people are interested in a purchase but we didn't have anything to do with th, "4e killed Gary," t-shirts. I'm not sure how the rumor got spread, but it wasn't us.
Were there any concrete evidence of such a shirt?

You better make sure your company trademark cannot be easily counterfeited and used in such a distastefully creative manner.
 

DM-Rocco

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Were there any concrete evidence of such a shirt?

You better make sure your company trademark cannot be easily counterfeited and used in such a distastefully creative manner.

From what I can tell, and it is a hard mystery to unravel after the fact, but I think someone was talking about us on one thread and then someone mentioned the 4e killed Gary shirts and assumed that we were apart of it since the thread began about us. From what I can tell, this is were it started and it spread quickly to several other sites. Which sucks, because it is very hard to clean up after everyone gets a chance to splatter the news wherever they want.

I did see some people walking around with those shirts and I did see the booth they sold them at and I can assure you that the shirts did not have our logo on them and we had nothing to do them.
 

sjmiller

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I saw a group of folks wearing that particular shirt. It appeared to be one entire gaming group. They stopped by my booth to look at our products, which is the only reason why I know the shirts existed. Very busy convention otherwise. I didn't even get a chance to stop by your booth. :(
 

DM-Rocco

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I saw a group of folks wearing that particular shirt. It appeared to be one entire gaming group. They stopped by my booth to look at our products, which is the only reason why I know the shirts existed. Very busy convention otherwise. I didn't even get a chance to stop by your booth. :(

We had a last minute chance to go to GenCon so I didn't get a chance to advertise. Depending on what listing you looked at, we were in booth #1602 or not listed at all. I learned a ton about GenCon and what I should do rather than what we did. I think next year will rock because we won't have all the overhead of this trip. Instead of the $1200 we had to spend on a 10 x 10 we are signed up for author's row, which is only $150. This will be our biggest improvement since we can relax and enjoy the show more without having to cut our arms off to pay for the show.

What booth were you in and what did you sell?
 


Aus_Snow

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Yeah, so unbelievably far beyond tasteless. . .

Anyway, great to hear it wasn't you guys. Not that I really thought it would've been, but it's good to have it confirmed. Well, denied. You know what I mean. :)
 

DM-Rocco

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Yeah, so unbelievably far beyond tasteless. . .

Anyway, great to hear it wasn't you guys. Not that I really thought it would've been, but it's good to have it confirmed. Well, denied. You know what I mean. :)

Yeah, I got home to over 100 e-mails thinking it was us and it was mind numbing to return them all and explain it wasn't. The post on enworld was taken on faith and later disbuted, at least on some of the other threads on other forums I could point to the exact place where the subject changed and say, "see, that wasn't us, they are talking about others."
 

Traycor

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I can't remember what board I saw it on, but I saw the thread where the rumor started. Someone speculated that it was your company's booth and it all just blew up from there.
 

DM-Rocco

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I can't remember what board I saw it on, but I saw the thread where the rumor started. Someone speculated that it was your company's booth and it all just blew up from there.

Yes, that sounds like how it started from what I can nail down. I was hoping it wouldn't spread to ENWorld but here we are.
 

SSquirrel

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Yes, that sounds like how it started from what I can nail down. I was hoping it wouldn't spread to ENWorld but here we are.

Maybe we can get one of the mods to post something on the front page, help get the word out that you guys actually have taste and would never sell a shirt like that. I heard about the shirt, but hadn't seen any attribution of who was selling it. Then again, I saw a thread titled that and had absolutely NO interest to read it. I was just disturbed that people would stoop so low.
 

Charwoman Gene

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"Dragon Roots made those shirts? Whoa, I hadn't heard that, thanks for the info." -- An example of what happens when you fight too hard against a nasty rumor. You spread it.
 

DM-Rocco

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Maybe we can get one of the mods to post something on the front page, help get the word out that you guys actually have taste and would never sell a shirt like that. I heard about the shirt, but hadn't seen any attribution of who was selling it. Then again, I saw a thread titled that and had absolutely NO interest to read it. I was just disturbed that people would stoop so low.

That would be great if the mods don't mind.

We actually did sell a tribute t-shirt to Gary and we have sizes small through triple xl left over. We were going to sell them on our own website to re-coup the base costs of the extra shirts but now I feel guilty trying to sell the extra t-shirts since it takes advantage in a different way of Gary's passing.

A few people have told me to just post it on our website because it isn't our fault that others got the wrong idea about us. So I did post on our website that the remaininng, "Roll High, Game Long!" t-shirts are for sale. Still, it is my nature to feel guilty about these things so we are going to give away any proceeds to a charity in honor of Gary. However, I haven't been on ENWorld for a month or so and I notice ENWorld has some server issues. If Morrus is okay with it, we could just as easily give the proceeds to ENWorld to update the servers. Gary loved ENWorld just as much as any other place so if the folks in charge give us the blessing, we would be happy to send proceeds to a new server. I think Gary would like that. Something that improves the quality of the gaming communnity and I'm sure that if he was still alive, he would agree that he would like more speed :)

Let me know guys, I would be happy to work something out.
 


sjmiller

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What booth were you in and what did you sell?
We were in booth 305, right next to the autograph area. We were selling the Origin's Award nominated Doctor Wizard's Patented Elevation Indicator. We also had new products for using the EI with larger figures. It was a lot of fun hawking our wears and meeting all sorts of people. If you would like to know more about the Elevation Indicators, let me know. I am the shill man and PR person for them. :)
 


DM-Rocco

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"Dragon Roots made those shirts? Whoa, I hadn't heard that, thanks for the info." -- An example of what happens when you fight too hard against a nasty rumor. You spread it.

I realize you're trying to be funny, but it really isn't. Again, in case someone is reading your reply, we did NOT sell those shirts.

You can view which shirt we did sell at www.dragonroots.net
 

DM-Rocco

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We were in booth 305, right next to the autograph area. We were selling the Origin's Award nominated Doctor Wizard's Patented Elevation Indicator. We also had new products for using the EI with larger figures. It was a lot of fun hawking our wears and meeting all sorts of people. If you would like to know more about the Elevation Indicators, let me know. I am the shill man and PR person for them. :)

WHoa, that is a mouth full.

Yeah, go ahead and send me some info. I tired to make all the booths but I only ever really got the the authors and artists with a select few in the main area. I feel I really missed out and I would love to hear from you and any others that I didn't get a chance to see or hear from.
 

Ranger REG

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I did see some people walking around with those shirts and I did see the booth they sold them at and I can assure you that the shirts did not have our logo on them and we had nothing to do them.
So, whose booth was selling such disgusting, beyond tasteless, offensive as selling your mother's own freshly-made turd in customer's hot dogs type of shirts?

I saw a group of folks wearing that particular shirt. It appeared to be one entire gaming group. They stopped by my booth to look at our products, which is the only reason why I know the shirts existed. Very busy convention otherwise. I didn't even get a chance to stop by your booth. :(
Wow. Too bad we can't do anything to that group legally ... and the keyword is "legally."

:devil: :devil: :devil:
 

DM-Rocco

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So, whose booth was selling such disgusting, beyond tasteless, offensive as selling your mother's own freshly-made turd in customer's hot dogs type of shirts?


Wow. Too bad we can't do anything to that group legally ... and the keyword is "legally."

:devil: :devil: :devil:

I can't recall which booth it was, only that in a mad dash to get from one place to another quickly I saw it for sale in a booth. Sorry, I know that doesn't help that ass kicking.
 

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