WotC Dragonlance: Everything You Need For Shadow of the Dragon Queen

WotC has shared a video explaining the Dragonlance setting, and what to expect when it is released in December.

World at War: Introduces war as a genre of play to fifth edition Dungeons & Dragons.

Dragonlance: Introduces the Dragonlance setting with a focus on the War of the Lance and an overview of what players and DMs need to run adventures during this world spanning conflict.

Heroes of War: Provides character creation rules highlighting core elements of the Dragonlance setting, including the kender race and new backgrounds for the Knight of Solamnia and Mage of High Sorcery magic-users. Also introduces the Lunar Sorcery sorcerer subclass with new spells that bind your character to Krynn's three mystical moons and imbues you with lunar magic.

Villains: Pits heroes against the infamous death knight Lord Soth and his army of draconians.

Notes --

• 224 page hardcover adventure
• D&D's setting for war
• Set in eastern Solamnia
• War is represented by context -- it's not goblins attacking the village, but evil forces; refugees, rumours
• You can play anything from D&D - clerics included, although many classic D&D elements have been forgotten
• Introductory scenarios bring you up to speed on the world so no prior research needed

 

[mamba]

For the God of the Bible it was easy- the whole world was wicked, except those saved.

I don't know, that is just his claim. Not sure I trust the suspect with his account of events. Also, what about all the animals he killed in the process?

It's never been the case for the Cataclysm that everyone who died was sharing in whatever sin the Kingpriest was guilty of.

Actually it was pretty much exactly that. This was not for the Kingpriest's sins only, but for all the people that worshipped him over the gods. The truly faithful / ones worth saving were whisked away the night before.

 

[RuinousPowers]

I don't know, that is just his claim. Not sure I trust the criminal with his account of events. Also, what about all the animals he killed in the process?

Actually it was pretty much exactly that. This was not for the Kingpriest's sins only, but for all the people that worshipped him over the gods. The true believers / ones worth saving were whisked away the night before.

If we aren't going to take biblical mythology as the true story, then I guess we should treat DL history as equally unreliable and throw canon out the window?

So, if all the guilty died and the faithful were whisked away, then there should be no one left on Krynn, but that's not the case. That's why it can't be compared to the biblical flood- there wasn't a third category of people.

 

[mamba]

If we aren't going to take biblical mythology as the true story, then I guess we should treat DL history as equally unreliable and throw canon out the window?

Didn't we do the exact same thing already when we started doubting whether the good gods are good for allowing / causing the Cataclysm? If not, then we are done here, they say they are good and this was justified, the end.

So, if all the guilty died and the faithful were whisked away, then there should be no one left on Krynn, but that's not the case. That's why it can't be compared to the biblical flood- there wasn't a third category of people.

Or we could argue the gods of Krynn are more forgiving. Save the ones worth saving, send a really strong message to the rest

 

[RuinousPowers]

Didn't we do the exact same thing already when we started doubting whether the good gods are good for allowing / causing the Cataclysm? If not, then we are done here, they say they are good and this was justified, the end.


Or we could argue the gods of Krynn are more forgiving. Save the ones worth saving and in the 'impact zone'. Send a really strong message to the rest

More like the "good gods" are like the player who let's his Good character be distracted so the party can torture captives.

My issue is you keep making comparisons to the biblical flood, but unlike Krynn where Paladine and Morgion have equal right to judge their followers on completely independent morality (and cannot judge each other's followers), the biblical God (or Eru, for that matter) is the source of all morality and therefore can judge everyone. This makes the biblical flood and the Cataclysm completely irreconcilable events.

 

[mamba]

More like the "good gods" are like the player who let's his Good character be distracted so the party can torture captives.

Well, then the one of the Bible is not good either, he was not even just looking the other way, he was the perpetrator.

As I said, either we have to take what both say at face value ('we are good, this was justified'), or we are free to doubt both of them. You cannot apply different rules.

My issue is you keep making comparisons to the biblical flood, but unlike Krynn where Paladine and Morgion have equal right to judge their followers on completely independent morality (and cannot judge each other's followers), the biblical God (or Eru, for that matter) is the source of all morality and therefore can judge everyone.

Yet all the gods of Krynn agreed that this was justified. If anything that makes this a stronger case for the Cataclysm being just.

This makes the biblical flood and the Cataclysm completely irreconcilable events.

Are these two events identical? Clearly not, no one argued that.

The question is 'can we take what the gods say about themselves and events at face value', and either we can do this for the gods of Krynn and the God of the Bible, or both are up for discussion.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Well there is the correlation with Adam's sin causing all of humanity to fall with the Christian belief that even though failure was personified in one man,

WTF!!! we should NOT be talking about real world religion here...

Ergo the Kingpriest could have been seen by Krynn's gods as the pinnacle of mortal goodness resulting in the consequence of his pride being applied to the entire planet.

except do we have any example of action that you would let a 1e or 2e Good aligned character get away with?

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Why would you expect to understand Paladine’s reasoning any better?

Paladine is a character (NPC) in a setting that good and evil are supposed to be elemental forces... if we don't know him to be good and do good things it isn't good vs evil... it's two complex sides that doo good and bad and in that why call them good/evil

 

[GMforPowergamers]

agreed, you should not expect to understand the rationale of a god of Krynn any better than of a god on Earth. For both you can only trust that they know what they are doing.

There is a reason why it is called ‘faith’ and not ‘evidence’

the god of krynn is a character you can interact with in a game that has set uses of the words good and evil and the game setting is supposed to be MORE good vs evil so yeah I expect us to understand what the concept of good IS

 

[GMforPowergamers]

For the God of the Bible it was easy- the whole world was wicked, except those saved. It's never been the case for the Cataclysm that everyone who died was sharing in whatever sin the Kingpriest was guilty of. In fact, Paladine thought he was a good man. Do paladins strike down good men? Do paladins destroy cities to kill good men?

imagine being the DM in a 1e game where a LG paladin said "We have to destroy the whole city to be sure we get the bad guys, because the good guy burgomaster is doing too much good."
all the stories of DMs taking away powers and changing alignments ever start with WAY less then that.

 

[mamba]

imagine being the DM in a 1e game where a LG paladin said "We have to destroy the whole city to be sure we get the bad guys, because the good guy burgomaster is doing too much good."

Way to misrepresent the Cataclysm. It's more the story of the paladin saying 'we wiped out the evil cultists and their leader'.