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[kreynolds]

BTW, if I were just a player, I wouldn't own the DMG.

What!?! So players are physically incapable of walking down to their local bookstore and buying the DMG!?! Whatever.

 

[kreynolds]

I'm raping by following the rules? huh.

No. You are simply raping the rules.

And I've noticed you love yourself

Like this is such a big discovery.

 

[Weeble]

Maintaining power level is letting the Wizard who spent the Feats to create items do what he is allowed to do with the rules. Otherwise, he would not take the Feats for this and concentrate on Social or Combat related Feats.

 

[kreynolds]

Maintaining power level is letting the Wizard who spent the Feats to create items do what he is allowed to do with the rules.

Yes. And the rules restrict him to a certain amount of power per level and this is governed by character wealth.

Otherwise, he would not take the Feats for this and concentrate on Social or Combat related Feats.

You might. A smart player still wouldn't neglect his item creation feats. The item creation feats are an integral part of the spellcasting classes, but following the rules in the DMG for character wealth by level does not take anything away from them. They can still create magic items. They can still make money from it, though it isn't easy, but the sales business never was easy.

 

[Weeble]

Like this is such a big discovery. [/B]

Only by me I'm sure plenty of people that have been here for awhile already know this.

 

[Crothian]

Yeah, I would say so on most points here. Although Table 5-1 suggests average treasures FOUND, not made, and a PC can make as many magic items as his current XP and gold will allow, no limit.

It's there as a guideline. If a DM told me I couldn't make something becasue it would put me over the GP limit I think I'd walk out. Characters value of items will vary over the course of an adventure; especially if they have many limited use items like scrolls, potions, and wands. This is nothing more then a judgement call.

As I've said before it's nothing something I'd ever use. In one game I'm PCing in, we are 5 third levels characters. We have a staffof Earth and Stone. That's valued at 85,000gp. According to that table alll five of us together should have no more then 13,500gp. We argue about using this all the time because it's so valueible. In that campaign our characters are rich, but none of them really care about money. It's nice to havea bunch of none greedy characters for once.

 

[kreynolds]

Only by me

At least something good has come out of this thread.

 

[Crothian]

Yes. And the rules restrict him to a certain amount of power per level and this is governed by character wealth.

So, Mr Reynolds, Sir. Would you stop a Wizard that had the time, money and resources from making a n item that would but him over the limit? If yes, how would such a ruling be handled in game? What in game reasons would you impose that would stop him from making this?

 

[Weeble]

You might. A smart player still wouldn't neglect his item creation feats. The item creation feats are an integral part of the spellcasting classes, but following the rules in the DMG for character wealth by level does not take anything away from them. They can still create magic items. They can still make money from it, though it isn't easy, but the sales business never was easy.

In your case, you could only make a profit if it didn't put you past your Character Wealth by Level, which, if you follow it like you do, would leave little room for any profit. Why take the Feat if you can go into a dungeon and Take.

 

[kreynolds]

It's there as a guideline. If a DM told me I couldn't make something becasue it would put me over the GP limit I think I'd walk out.

I would never tell someone that they couldn't make an item because of their character wealth limit, but I would balance it out somehow.