Dromus Prep Thread

TrevWar - I've kinda lost track of everything I need to look at for you, between server outages and trying to get this game started. Please just send me an e-mail at jaberwocky_slayer (at) hotmail (dot) com with everything you want me to look at.

Oh, and, uh... Tux's right about gestalt characters. I don't even want to hazard an LA for that one, and more narrowly-focused abilities work better in large games anyway.
 

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Just to make sure, does my cohort have any money alotted to him to purchase items, or do I have to buy all his stuff with my money???
 

They have NPC gear for their level, if they're from the Leadership feat. Otherwise, it comes out of your pocket. However, I get to make cohorts, even if you start with them. How do you think DemonWolfZero wound up with a Loxo Bard, of all things? ;)
 

Kell said:
How do you think DemonWolfZero wound up with a Loxo Bard, of all things?
I did find that some what funny, especially with his tactics in mind

OMG! You read and posted within a week of the question! Are you feeling alright??? :p

I'm refering to my Skeletal "Cohort" for giving up my familiar ability. The Unearthed Arcana calls him a cohort so I figured I'd just keep calling him that.
I take it since I only got
16 points of point buy (animal companions, familiars, followers)
for him instead of
24 points (cohorts and elite NPCS)
that he isn't a true cohort in the sence of game mechanics, but I'm not sure what else to call him other then something like "my skeletal familiar", cause I can't say "my familiar", that just gives rise to constant confusion.
If he's getting familiar point but stats then I presume he's considered a familiar and I can use spells and the wizard's familiar table on him?

I know you'll be making the cohorts, that balanceing issue of yours has always been like that with cohorts, but I can't really think of to many diffrent ways you can make a humanoid skeleton. ;)
 
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Punk! *shakes fist*

It's not terribly clear. Anyway, I think that it should work as a familiar gold-wise (you pay for everything), since that's the ability that it's replacing. Replacing entirely, so you don't get anything other than what's specifically listed there, so no abilities off the Wizard familiar chart either.

Sorry for the slow replies, people. A combination of classwork and dealing with the other thread is slowing my down. Fortunately, once we actually start I'll just have to do my DM thing, and it's a lot easier to find time to do that than to find the energy to reply to Trev's constant questioning and 25-page documents.
 

I think that it should work as a familiar gold-wise, since that's the ability that it's replacing. Replacing entirely, so you don't get anything other than what's specifically listed there
That doesn't make any sense. If its "Replacing entirely" my familiar ability then he sould get cohort gold and point buy. I would think it would fall as either:
Cohort gold and point buy with no familiar ability (which seems to be more in the spirit of the game and book), or
No gold with Familiar Point Buy and abilities
But I'm getting none of them... I feel i'm getting the **** end of the stick here...

P.S. - I'm actually really sorry about that word document. But I found all that stuff and more and I liked the flavor it could give my character, and I liked some of that stuff in general. I turned out to be 25 pages before I knoew what happened. You could look on the bright side and know that it took me a while to get all that into together... ...and there is still a little more... ...but I'm nearly done "finding things" I swear!
 
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Actually, what you're getting is a familiar that's a heck of a lot more powerful in combat and less useful out of it. Plus, it does kick you in the XP jewels when it dies. I believe it costs a whopping 100 gold to replace, in fact. The Unearthed Arcana listing says nothing whatsoever about getting familiar abilities added on top of what's listed, and it explicitly says that you do not gain the ability to summon a familiar when using that variant. Ergo, replaces completely.

Likewise, it isn't a cohort. It's pretty obviously modeled on the familiar ability of most wizards, but rejiggered to be substantially more useful in the ways that having a powerful skeleton warrior around can be useful. It also isn't an independent NPC like a cohort - it has no Int, no will of its own, and you can replace it with a quick ritual at the drop of a hat. Ergo, no cohort point buy and no cohort gold, since it could hardly have been off adventuring without you before it became attracted to your banner.

I've used the ability variant myself, in exactly the way that I'm having you do it (save that I rolled 3d6 for the stats), and had quite satisfactory results. That skeleton is a pretty tough customer, believe it or not.

It's not a big deal with the document. But you have to expect me to take a while to get around to finishing it. If I have the choice of reading 25 pages of stuff you've dug up or 25 pages of reading that I'll be expected to know tomorrow, you can't expect to win. It keeps getting pushed down on my "things to do" list, but I'll work my way through it eventually. :)
 
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Kelleris said:
no cohort point buy and no cohort gold, since it could hardly have been off adventuring without you before it became attracted to your banner.
I knew that part, actually I was wondering if later I could construct a cohort in conjunction with the Ancient Wisom spell, but that's one of many questions for another time.
I just feel that I'm being jipped with him as he'll be my only attacking ability. I don't go into combat at all, I have spells to help him and stay away from enemies. I don't have any physical stats to hold up in combat any way, that how I wanted to make the character, especially after I thought my cohort would be getting cohort stats. The basic build of my character is that he sucks on his own, he's weak and slow and just sucks. That's where his minions come in, and that's all he's got going for him (minions and spells).
 
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Trev, the character is a necromancer wizard. I'm using 16 pts for my animal companion and it's just fine. Besides you are focusing on summoning and wizards get good spells. You aren't for combat. It'll work out just fine.
 


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