Drow Mating ??

[yennico]

I do not have the book Savage Species, so I do not know if this topic is in that book.

Drows can mate with Humans.
Humans can mate with Orcs.

Can Drows mate with Orcs ?
I think the mating Drow and Orc will produce an offspring.

Drow will certainly not voluntary mate with Orcs and Orcs certainly do not want to mate with Drows.
Perhaps under very special circumstances a mating can occur.
So Half-Drow/Half-Orcs will be a very special creatures. They also will be very scarce.
Certainly most of them will be killed by their mother at birth, but if one Half-Drow/Half-Orc survives his childhood which racial traits of his parents does he have ?

Just my 2 cents
yennico

 

[Shin Okada]

Not just drows, but I am somewhat curious if Elves and Orcs san make offsprings. But who knows? It is fantasy. They may, or may not.

Anyway, I don't know any official answer to this topic. It may up to each DM and his world.

 

[yennico]

Half-Drow/Half-Orc as race

My try to figure out the stats and abilites of a Half-Drow/Half-Orc

An Orc gains: +4 Str, -2 Int, -2 Wis, -2 Cha and has Darkvision 60 ft and a light sensitivity, favorite class: barbarian

A Drow gains: +2 Dex, -2 Con, +2 Int, +2 Cha and has Darkvision 120 ft. , light blindness, spell-like abilities, SR, Elven Racial Traits ( bonus on listen, spot, search, +2 vs. Enchantment, etc) ?, +2 vs Spells and Spell-like abilities, favorite class: either wizard or cleric

Attributes:
A Half-Orc is not so strong as an Orc, so a Half-Drow/Half-Orc can not be so strong as an Orc.
The Orc -2 on Int and Cha is neutralized by the bonus of the drow.
Dex, Con, Wis:
If you use the Half of each bonus because the creature is only half of the original race you would gain: Dex +1 Con -1 and Wis -1.
-1 or +1 are not the normal bonus used in D&D,
I do not know which of my several versions are the most realistic:
Dex +2, Con -2 and Wis 0
Dex +2 Con 0 and Wis -2
Dex 0, Con 0 and Wis -2
Dex 0, Con -2 and Wis 0

I would prefer either
Str +2 Dex +2 Con 0 Int 0 Wis -2 and Cha 0 (favorite class ??? )
or
Str +2 Dex 0 Con 0 Int 0 Wis -2 and Cha 0 (favorite class perhaps fighter)

As racial abilities I would suggest:
120 feet darkvision and Light-Blindness, perhaps one spell-like ability (Darkness 1/day) IIRC like a tiefling

Favorite Class ????

CR/ ECL ???

Just my 2 cents
yennico

 

[Skinwalker]

Not just drows, but I am somewhat curious if Elves and Orcs san make offsprings. But who knows? It is fantasy. They may, or may not.

Anyway, I don't know any official answer to this topic. It may up to each DM and his world.

In Second Edition AD&D, it was explicitly stated that elves and orcs could produce no offspring. I believe this was listed in the elves' Monstrous Compendium listing, but it may have been in the Complete Book of Elves.

Two disclaimers:
1: I have yet to see anything so explicit in any 3E manual, core or otherwise.
2: If the DM wants a race to exist, it will. In the FR campaign in which I play, our main fighter is a Mul (ala Dark Sun, although with lower stats). Official FR material (Dwarves Deep) states that a successful mating of Dwarf and Human simply produces a tall Dwarf, but the DM likes Muls. Rule 0 wins.

 

[Thresher]

Half Orc/Half drow?
o_0

Im still wondering what happened to the 'Noble and clever but very evil' race of dark elves from the old days, they seem to have lost something along the way. Mostly it was their sense of being a master race but they seem to get portrayed an awful lot in recent modules and books as being about as subtle as a brick to the forehead and as noble as a $2 'ho.
Having trawled through the WoTC forums Ive seen a lot of this type of stuff and wonder if the company comprimised to the lowest common denominator to make them 'kewl'.

Guess we play a different game now eh

 

[Kae'Yoss]

Not again.

We periotically have the question of whether elves and orcs are interfertile, and now you go one step further and ask about drow/orcs.

As always, my answer is: NO!

I would never allow such a thing IMC, and would seriously dislike a campaign where this were possible. For one, the respective creators of these races surely made sure that such a thing couldn't be. And even if such a creature would be born, it would be very lucky if it survived the first day: not only the mother, but every single member of any race involved would allow such an insult to their race to survive.

To the bonuses involved: look at the half-orc and the half-drow and go from there. But again, I'd advice against it.

 

[dcollins]

The official AD&D answer has always been "no". Until 3rd Ed. officially reverses that somewhere, I'd recommend sticking with the negative response.

AD&D 1st Ed. MM p. 76: "As orcs will breed with anything, there are any number of unsavory mongrels with orcish blood, particularly orc-goblins, orc-hobgoblins, and orc-humans. Orcs cannot cross-breed with elves."

 

[Sejs]

Sure, they can mate with anything they like! Particularly given the occasionally (...well.. okay, pretty often) hedonistic nature of drow, I could even see it happening - between a drow, and an orcish slave.


But can they produce viable offspring? I'd say no. Orcs are promiscuous, and rather fertile, but they don't have the Mystic Get-Your-Freak-On-With-Anything abilities that outsiders and dragons have going for 'em.

 

[Caliber]

What do you think Humans are?

 

[yennico]

Not again.

We periotically have the question of whether elves and orcs are interfertile, and now you go one step further and ask about drow/orcs.

Hello KaeYoss,
I´m a new member to this board and I have not read all posts from the beginning
I do not really want to create a new half-breed race. My question was theoretic. A what-if question.
I posted the possible (perhaps useable ) stats, but only if there are no offical rules which ban this half-breed. I have not remembered the sentence dcollins quoted.
IMC Drow are as pure evil, clever, etc. as thresher describes them.

For one, the respective creators of these races surely made sure that such a thing couldn't be.

Can you give a quote on that ?
Thanks to dcollins who quoted the 1st ed. MM.

And even if such a creature would be born, it would be very lucky if it survived the first day: not only the mother, but every single member of any race involved would allow such an insult to their race to survive.

I totally agree with you. I only needed a proof that this half-breed is not allowed by the rules.

dcollins gave me my proof.


Just my 2 cents
yennico