Drow Mating ??

[Sejs]

Mul = dwarven/human crossbreed, mostly force bred for slave labor as they were -really- tough, and could go for very long periods under heavy labor (and didn't suffer the dark sun dwarves 'focus' problem). Mul were naturally produced, but sterile. And hairless, if I recall. Mul ~ Mule.


Half-Giant = human/giant crossbreed. A magically produced hybrid, they were fertile only with other half-giants, and were very unstable. The whole shifting alignment thing must -really- suck to experience, I'd imagine. Talk about your extreem mood swings.

 

[Particle_Man]

I do not have the book Savage Species, so I do not know if this topic is in that book.

Drows can mate with Humans.
Humans can mate with Orcs.

Can Drows mate with Orcs ?

I wanted to play such a character but my DM said "Don't be a Dorc" or something like that.

 

[JChung2003]

It's also often the case the two related species can mate and produce offspring, which are sterile. See horse+donkey = mule.

That is true, but in this case, both elves and orcs are fertile, not infertile like mules. It may be the case that the offspring of an elf and an orc is infertile and incapable of reproducing, but you can't infer that such an offspring couldn't happen by citing mules as an example.

 

[Camarath]

That is true, but in this case, both elves and orcs are fertile, not infertile like mules. It may be the case that the offspring of an elf and an orc is infertile and incapable of reproducing, but you can't infer that such an offspring couldn't happen by citing mules as an example.

I don't think he means that orcs and elves are infertile but that thier offspring could be. Thus partially explaining why there would they would be so rare, especialy if conception was difficult. I personaly feel that in D&D any creature can crossbreed with any other because of magic. I also feel that creatures that posses the same basic biology should be able to crossbreed with out magic.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

I´m a new member to this board and I have not read all posts from the beginning

I know. It's just that this question turns up on almost every board I post on (well, every RPG-related board, anyway), and on some more than once. Here on this board it has become almost periodical.

Can you give a quote on that ?

Sure, next time I have go play Poker with Corellon or Groomsh, I ask if they can give me some elf or orc plueprints or source code

Sure, they can mate with anything they like! Particularly given the occasionally (...well.. okay, pretty often) hedonistic nature of drow, I could even see it happening - between a drow, and an orcish slave.

They still adore beauty, the drow. I doubt it very much that any drow would take an orc to bed - especially if they can have drow instead (for a female in Lolth-dominated cities or outposts, that should be no problem: to defy a female is to get yourself killed. And even if not, they can usually arrange things).

If a Orc can breed with a Human and a Elf/Drow can breed with a Human. => An Orc can Breed with a Elf/Drow.

If species A is compatible with species B, and species B is compatible with species C, then species A is compatible with species C.

Not necessarily. Especially if there's some divine being involved that takes a personal interest in the matter. Gods tend to really mess with any science when they feel like it.

Also Humans can breed with Giants (aka Half-Ginats Dark Sun)

No, they cannot. Half-Giants have to be bred with magic. You can't just lock a giant and a human into a cheap motel room with a lot of booze and hope nature takes its course.

Since in the tolkein tradition from which all of current D&D is spawned Orcs are corrupted versions of elves, we figured it was a no-brainer that drow and orcs could intermingle and produce offspring.

It is true that much of D&D was lent (read: stolen) from Tolkien, but the fact that orcs were elves once isn't among these things (and even Tolkien never stated that as a fact, only as the leading theory on how Morgoth created the orcs).

Interesting thoughts. A non WotC publisher put out a Book of Drow, and in it they had examples of Drow/Orc, Drow/Goblin, and even Drow/Ilithid couplings. And yes, the Drow/Ilithid is just as disturbing as you're thinking it is.

Well, Drow Half-Illithid is possible, given the illithid way of reproducing themselves: They don't breed like humanoids, but use a humanoid body (with true Illithids, that's a human one, but they can use other bodies, which created Half-Illithids) and insert some kind of tadpole.

But d20 Publishers hardly set the standards. The very fact that they introduce Drow/Orc and Drow/Goblin mongels is a reason not to buy that one.

Oh, and I can't give you a quote about the Elven and Orcish creators, but at least in Greyhawk, the Elvish and Orcish gods not only dispised eachother eternally, the Elf plucked one of the Orc's eyes out. If either of them would overlook a hybrid child, I would be damn suprised. Hatred runs thick in the blood.

It's the same in the realms, cause until just before 3e the demihuman deities were not bound to any one world (and now they're copies of each other: Corellon and Gruumsh should be the same, and the other members of the Elf, Drow and Orc Pantheons might be present on both worlds, too)

 

[Pooka]

Hi!

If a Orc can breed with a Human and a Elf/Drow can breed with a Human. => An Orc can Breed with a Elf/Drow.

If species A is compatible with species B, and species B is compatible with species C, then species A is compatible with species C.

If Genetics would be that easy ... my life would be a lot easier ... don´t mind.

Maybe the human genom is similar enough to that from an elf to produce offspring, maybe a human is similar enough to produce offspring, that doesn´t mean that elf and orc (if they mate) are similar enough to each other. I know this is just fantasy and I don´t really wanna know what some wizards do in there private chambers, but I think that should be the only way to produce an drorc.

Even in the case that drorc really sounds cool !!

I like at most all the humaniods in D&D like we look at Dogs.

You can breed any two together. You just maynot like what you get.

I know in fantasy there are no barriers, but i think the possibility that viable offspring is the result should be not the rule. Dogs are at least of the same race ...

Or just a mut of a (... Halfling(ouch)...)

I heard that !!!



Pooka

 

[Pooka]

Hi !

I personaly feel that in D&D any creature can crossbreed with any other because of magic. I also feel that creatures that posses the same basic biology should be able to crossbreed with out magic.

No! You have to look deeper! I´m quite sure we couldn´t crossbreed with gorillas and they are very similar to us!

But as I told earlier: just in the lab of a crazy wizard with loads of black magic!

And what would the gods say ?! When there is magic you have to look at what the gods want too ... I think loth wouldn´t be overly fond of a worshiper grunting her name ...




Pooka

 

[Camarath]

No! You have to look deeper! I´m quite sure we couldn´t crossbreed with gorillas and they are very similar to us!

Pooka

I think I was talking about in D&D, thus the "In D&D" preface to that comment. Also how do you know that you can't crossbreed with a gorilla have seen evidence or research that this is not possible and could not even be accomplished with modern magic (genetic engineering). I have personaly worked on projects that have crossbreed far more divergent organisms that humans and gorillas.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

Even in the case that drorc really sounds cool !!

I just stick to Particle_Man's Dorc.

Seriously, if the drow want to breed some strong brute, they mate with demons. It has been done before, and the outcome can be seen in the draegloth half-demons.

 

[Angcuru]

If a Orc can breed with a Human and a Elf/Drow can breed with a Human. => An Orc can Breed with a Elf/Drow.

If species A is compatible with species B, and species B is compatible with species C, then species A is compatible with species C.

Where in the nine hells did you get that logic?

That's like saying that if Palestinians get along well with the Chinese, and Israelies get along well with the Chinese, Palestinians get along well with Israelies. Which is not true.