Drow Mating ??
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Camarath
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Rattus norvegicus and Rattus rattus have both been been know to breed with other rodents (often the same species) but can not (normally) interbreed. Most close species incompatibility is due to rejection of the fetus by the mother because of aberrant chromosomal variance. Also physical barriers in both conception or gestation can represent an insurmountable barrier to fertility. The fetus must develop with in the normal range in both size and shape for the mother.
Kemrain
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Interesting thoughts. A non WotC publisher put out a Book of Drow, and in it they had examples of Drow/Orc, Drow/Goblin, and even Drow/Ilithid couplings. And yes, the Drow/Ilithid is just as disturbing as you're thinking it is.
I have to agree with 1st and 2nd editon, though, and say that Orcs and Elves, of any type (Grey, Gold, Sun, Aquatic, Deep, etc.) are incapable of producing anything but pain and suffering when coupled.
The Dwarf/Human thing is interesting, but I've never seen it done anywhere (officially) outside of Dark Sun. DS had some WEIRD races, and a Mul was just one of many. But it wasn't a viable offspring, because of their sterility. Halfgiants, on the other hand, were viable, but could only breed with eachother, because they had been magically created, ages ago. (Probably at the end of the Green Age, but I'm no historian.)
As usual, if your GM does't say "Not in MY Campaign," then you're golden, but I surmise that most will agree with the earlier editions and forbid it.
Oh, and I can't give you a quote about the Elven and Orcish creators, but at least in Greyhawk, the Elvish and Orcish gods not only dispised eachother eternally, the Elf plucked one of the Orc's eyes out. If either of them would overlook a hybrid child, I would be damn suprised. Hatred runs thick in the blood.
The Tolkien idea of elves and orcs has, as far as I've seen, been weaned out of D&D as of late. Orcs are generally seen as a rather bestial, yet related (sub)species of Human, seeing as they can couple and produce viable young. They have their own history and creation story, but as I follow the D&D Theory of Evolution, (Darwin would spank me for this,) I'm fairly sure Orcs are more related to humans than they are to Elves, sharing a later common ancestor.
- Kemrian the Xenobiologist
I have to agree with 1st and 2nd editon, though, and say that Orcs and Elves, of any type (Grey, Gold, Sun, Aquatic, Deep, etc.) are incapable of producing anything but pain and suffering when coupled.
The Dwarf/Human thing is interesting, but I've never seen it done anywhere (officially) outside of Dark Sun. DS had some WEIRD races, and a Mul was just one of many. But it wasn't a viable offspring, because of their sterility. Halfgiants, on the other hand, were viable, but could only breed with eachother, because they had been magically created, ages ago. (Probably at the end of the Green Age, but I'm no historian.)
As usual, if your GM does't say "Not in MY Campaign," then you're golden, but I surmise that most will agree with the earlier editions and forbid it.
Oh, and I can't give you a quote about the Elven and Orcish creators, but at least in Greyhawk, the Elvish and Orcish gods not only dispised eachother eternally, the Elf plucked one of the Orc's eyes out. If either of them would overlook a hybrid child, I would be damn suprised. Hatred runs thick in the blood.
The Tolkien idea of elves and orcs has, as far as I've seen, been weaned out of D&D as of late. Orcs are generally seen as a rather bestial, yet related (sub)species of Human, seeing as they can couple and produce viable young. They have their own history and creation story, but as I follow the D&D Theory of Evolution, (Darwin would spank me for this,) I'm fairly sure Orcs are more related to humans than they are to Elves, sharing a later common ancestor.
- Kemrian the Xenobiologist
Skinwalker
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Kemrain said:
Check out the FR supplement, Dwarves Deep. It briefly goes into the infertility problems of the Dwarven races and how some clans began taking human wives after learning these unions were often more "fertile" and that the union merely produced tall dwarves.
Skinwalker
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Caliber said:
Yes, they were. However, I think it also stated that muls were not born from a natural coupling between the two races, but a product of forced breeding intermixed with the dark rituals of the witch-kings.
Kemrain
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About Muls... In the Prisim Pentad Series, by Troy Denning, if I recall, a human and a dwarf had a child without sorcerous assistance, and, though it was a hard birth, all parties survived.
Muls were simply most common in the slave pits of the Sorcerer Kings, because they made fantastic work slaves. I believe that Dwarves and Humans can just as easily breed as horses and donkeys.
- Kemrain the: "Maybe I am a Historian..."
Muls were simply most common in the slave pits of the Sorcerer Kings, because they made fantastic work slaves. I believe that Dwarves and Humans can just as easily breed as horses and donkeys.
- Kemrain the: "Maybe I am a Historian..."
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