D&D (2024) Dungeons and Dragons future? Ray Winninger gives a nod to Mike Shea's proposed changes.

[Maxperson]

One more than "a few."

More specifically, it's one more than a couple(2), since several is 3 to many. A few is just a small number of, which would include 2, but also 3 or 4, which is several.

These descriptive number groups make my head hurt. I mean, 4 stars in a solar system is a large number of stars for a solar system, which is many. So would that make 3 the only number that qualifies for several, since it's less than many? Or since 4 is a small number, would that simply be a few stars?

 

[Vaalingrade]

The deep, important discussion invoked by D&D ladies and gentlemen.

 

[CapnZapp]

This isn’t true. I’ve done the math, and the rogue’s SA with 1 attack per round is equal to the value obtained by extrapolating a wizard’s spell slots translated directly into single target damage over enough rounds to run the wizard out of slots. If they wizard uses slots for other things at all, the rogue does more damage over the same number of rounds.

Reaction attacks are extra.

Why does equality with wizards make my statement untrue??

 

[Reynard]

The deep, important discussion invoked by D&D ladies and gentlemen.

In the 2024 revision, they should just say that each class can use their abilities/spells "several times a day."

 

[Vaalingrade]

In the 2024 revision, they should just say that each class can use their abilities/spells "several times a day."

This one specifically:

 

[Parmandur]

It's only 2 years. 2020 = Tasha. 2022 = announcement of Tasha no longer being optional for the next edition. It took 2 years. In any case, 4 =/= several, either.

There has been no announcement. Ray Winninger told a guy that he thinks he'll like what he sees, based on a list where the Tasha's changes were included.

That doesn't mean they are being adopted wholesale, or that they knew in 2020 that would be the case.

But if in 2022 they know that most people have adopted Tasharules into their game...why wouldn't they include them as standard in the next Edition, similar to Proficiencies in 2E? That didn't mean that the Wilderness Survival Guide or Oriental Adventures were disingenuous when they introduced those as an option, even if Zeb Cook suspected that he would put them in 2E already.

 

[Parmandur]

Yeah. I forgot how vague "several" is. It's still 2 years from Tasha's to announcement, though. So not several.

There's been no announcement of specifics, just a nod and a wink that tpeople that are happy with the current game will stay happy.

 

[Parmandur]

I don't. They didn't say the rules would only be optional until 5.5, and I don't believe for a second that they didn't intend for the rules to be in 5.5 when Tasha's was released. Had those rules been horribly received they may have backed away from the plan, but that doesn't make stating that the rules were optional not a lie. The truth would have been "Temporarily optional."

Does the calculus change if the 2024 release is straight up 6E (albeit a 6E that is casually backwards compatible, also part of what Winninger winked at here)?

 

[Parmandur]

They didn't know. If Tasha's had not been well received, they would have taken a different direction. That's what a pilot is for.

Indeed, and one thing to consider is that due to Beyond in addition to their surveying apparatus, WotC probably has a pretty good idea on how these changes have been received by now.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

Anyone want to figure out how much space is saved if we move all the races to MotM style write ups... just removing the stat lines and adding the ones to the beginingI think could save 1/4 a page. I do wonder how dwraf subclass and half elf will work though