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[Maxperson]

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Few is like several.

More than 2, but less than "many".

Probably, 10 starts the "many" range.

Many is even more vague than several. It's just "a large number of."

 

[darjr]

I don't. They didn't say the rules would only be optional until 5.5, and I don't believe for a second that they didn't intend for the rules to be in 5.5 when Tasha's was released. Had those rules been horribly received they may have backed away from the plan, but that doesn't make stating that the rules were optional not a lie. The truth would have been "Temporarily optional."

Didn’t you say it was “deceptive”?

 

[Maxperson]

Didn’t you say it was “deceptive”?

Advertising the race rules as optional when they knew that in 5.5 they would be default is deceptive. 1, 2, or several don't matter.

 

[darjr]

Advertising the race rules as optional when they knew that in 5.5 they would be default is deceptive. 1, 2, or several don't matter.

Proof when calling people liers is, I think, a good practice.
Edit to note: this isn’t it.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

2 = several now? When did that change happen?

Tasha's came out in 2020. The new core rules are coming out in 2024. 2024-2020 = 4, not 2, last time I checked. That's a lifetime for fourth editions!

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Oh, for sure! And it’s not as if LotR is without its own goofy moments.

Yeah I have been listening to the unabridged audiobook version from Recorded Books on audible, and the part where Sam recites his song about trolls is downright hilarious.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Advertising the race rules as optional when they knew that in 5.5 they would be default is deceptive. 1, 2, or several don't matter.

They didn't know. If Tasha's had not been well received, they would have taken a different direction. That's what a pilot is for.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

In any case, 4 =/= several, either.

Yes it does.

I don't. They didn't say the rules would only be optional until 5.5, and I don't believe for a second that they didn't intend for the rules to be in 5.5 when Tasha's was released. Had those rules been horribly received they may have backed away from the plan, but that doesn't make stating that the rules were optional not a lie. The truth would have been "Temporarily optional."

Yeah, it does. The Tasha’s race options also just expand what is possible.

But your position also depends on the assumption that they’re lying (see first bolded sentence) in order to conclude that they’re lying, which is a very weak position.

 

[dave2008]

Okay, I'll bite: what exact number does the purposefully inexact word 'several' imply?

One more than "a few."

 

[Micah Sweet]

Yes it does.

Yeah, it does. The Tasha’s race options also just expand what is possible.

But your position also depends on the assumption that they’re lying (see first bolded sentence) in order to conclude that they’re lying, which is a very weak position.

Doesn't mean he's wrong. Where would you even get evidence of that anyway? All we have for any of it is speculation, and whether or not you think well of WotC in general.