duskblade-- too powerful?

[Question]

I dont think most DMs would have an issue with it "upgrading" as you go along. Its not exactly broken or anything.

 

[shilsen]

Uhm actually I'm not sure he is Frank. See when I played a duskblade a while back, I took that as my 2nd character feat (I was human so I had two other feats), and that allowed me to cast in heavy armor. Or was it 6th level...anyway point is I'm sure it doesn't grant you the ability to continually upgrade.

It does read, to me, like it upgrades if the class ability does. The benefit section of the feat says: "You are able to wear armor one category heavier than you can normally wear while still avoiding the chance of arcane spell failure."

Since what you can normally wear for this purpose upgrades when you hit 4th lvl in the class, I think the feat's benefit would have to similarly upgrade.

 

[wayne62682]

It does read, to me, like it upgrades if the class ability does. The benefit section of the feat says: "You are able to wear armor one category heavier than you can normally wear while still avoiding the chance of arcane spell failure."

Since what you can normally wear for this purpose upgrades when you hit 4th lvl in the class, I think the feat's benefit would have to similarly upgrade.

That would be my interpretation, as well, although when I played a Duskblade I had better things to spend feats on than that (just get Mithral Full Plate.. it counts as Medium)

 

[Rkhet]

kinda OT, but that picture looks more Drow Adamite than Mithral to me.

 

[brehobit]

Uhm actually I'm not sure he is Frank. See when I played a duskblade a while back, I took that as my 2nd character feat (I was human so I had two other feats), and that allowed me to cast in heavy armor. Or was it 6th level...anyway point is I'm sure it doesn't grant you the ability to continually upgrade.

Why not?
"You are able to wear one category heavier than you can normally wear while still avoiding the chance of arcane spell failure. For example, if you have the ability to normally wear light armor without incurring a chance of spell failure, you can wear medium armor and contimue to cast spells as normal. ...."

Looks like it will upgrade with you... Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean?

 

[Question]

You save quite a bit of cash by not taking mithral full plate though and just using regular plate. Especially if you only have 12 dex.

 

[jcfiala]

You save quite a bit of cash by not taking mithral full plate though and just using regular plate. Especially if you only have 12 dex.

Mithral may be expensive, but feats can be even more expensive than that.

 

[erc1971]

Battle Caster upgrades - it is plainly obvious. It allows you to wear 1 category higher than you normally could. You don't lose the feat if your category goes from light to medium.

And 13th level arcane channeling. You can't channel the spell through the same target more than once?! If you played that way, the Duskblade would become the Castratedblade. I am playing one now in a campaign where we are 11th level (well, we hit 12th at the end of the last session, but have not played at that level). My duskblade is by far the weakest PC. Our Paladin does Rhino Charge, Charging Smite charges for around 100 damage, our wizard pastes everything with maximized, empowered orbs of force (Metamagic Rods and the sudden feats are just wrong), our cleric uses Divine Metamagic to quicken Divine Power and Righteous Might the beginning of combat and tears through everything. I channel a single spell and hit the guy just enough to beat DR and then do a whimpy 5d6. The other classes have 2 more levels to gain in power before I see my full attack channeling - it is going to be needed just to keep up. Realistically, that is only 2 hits a round, that last attack has such a low bonus, it only hits on 19 or 20 anyways (we are in Shackled City, most the stuff we fight has a CR of +3 or 4, so the AC's are jacked).

Can the Duskblade be overpowered? Hell yeah. Try critting on a leap attack with a full power attack with a scythe after using a swift True Strike to ensure you hit. The combo of a melee class being able to cast True Strike is the nasty part. Though, our group banned Leap Attack (100% agreement on this too!), ugh, I can imagine the Paladin doing another 40 damage a hit with that feat!

 

[Nightfall]

Well I guess I just read it different than some but there you are.

Still don't think Duskblade is that badass compared to Mageblade.

 

[frankthedm]

I am playing one now in a campaign where we are 11th level (well, we hit 12th at the end of the last session, but have not played at that level). My duskblade is by far the weakest PC. Our Paladin does Rhino Charge, Charging Smite charges for around 100 damage, our wizard pastes everything with maximized, empowered orbs of force (Metamagic Rods and the sudden feats are just wrong), our cleric uses Divine Metamagic to quicken Divine Power and Righteous Might the beginning of combat and tears through everything. I channel a single spell and hit the guy just enough to beat DR and then do a whimpy 5d6. The other classes have 2 more levels to gain in power before I see my full attack channeling - it is going to be needed just to keep up.

Broken splat material on other core classes does not mean your class is balanced.