D&D 5E (2014) Eberron: Forge of the Artificer

[bergec]

So we know that there are going to be five revised species, so what do folks think they will be? Changelings, Kalashtar, Khoravar, Shifters, and Warforged seem a safe bet for inclusion, but I'm surprised that this means we won't get Goblinoids given how core they are to the setting. Thoughts?

 

[Parmandur]

So we know that there are going to be five revised species, so what do folks think they will be? Changelings, Kalashtar, Khoravar, Shifters, and Warforged seem a safe bet for inclusion, but I'm surprised that this means we won't get Goblinoids given how core they are to the setting. Thoughts?

Yeah, those 5 are confirmed. We already have playable Govlinoids in Monsters of the Multiverse, at least, though I wouldn't be surprised of they get revisited sooner rather than later.

 

[Kurotowa]

Yeah, those 5 are confirmed. We already have playable Govlinoids in Monsters of the Multiverse, at least, though I wouldn't be surprised of they get revisited sooner rather than later.

An Eberron book would have been my first bet for revised Goblinoids, but the early ad copy for Forge said only those five. So my second guess is the Lorwyn-Shadowmoor next year, given how much they seem to feature in that setting and the strong push to make them more distinctly fey in nature.

 

[GarrettKP]

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Found this art on D&D Beyond... is that a shifter? Or is it something else I don't know about?

This is a shifter, specifically it is the same character seen in the Artillerist preview page. They wear the same exact outfit with the same facial markings, so this is her shifted form.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Yeah, those 5 are confirmed. We already have playable Govlinoids in Monsters of the Multiverse, at least, though I wouldn't be surprised of they get revisited sooner rather than later.

Yeah, goblinoid PCs are a general thing now, not specific to Eberron. If there is a new "general" book they might be updated in that.

 

[WanderingMystic]

Yeah, goblinoid PCs are a general thing now, not specific to Eberron. If there is a new "general" book they might be updated in that.

Eberron goblinoids are quite different from all other D&D goblinoids (fey focused) so I can understand why they might not put them in the Eberron book.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Eberron goblinoids are quite different from all other D&D goblinoids (fey focused) so I can understand why they might not put them in the Eberron book.

Eberron uses core rules, rewriting it's lore to fit. So if core goblins become fey, then so do Eberron goblins.

 

[tetrasodium]

Eberron goblinoids are different to the point that they even have their own names for themselves
Goblins were called golin'dar, meaning "quick people". "Golin" in goblin language translates to "quick," referring to both speed and intelligence.
Hobgoblins were called ghaal'dar, meaning "mighty people". "Ghaal" translates to "mighty," with connotations of prowess in battle.
Bugbears were called guul'dar, meaning "strong people". "Guul" translates to "strong".

Hobgoblin

Hobgoblins are a race of goblinoids who, along with goblins and bugbears, originated in Khorvaire.[5] They are called the ghaal'dar, or "mighty people", in their own tongue.[citation needed] They are a clever, strong, and disciplined race with perhaps a tendency to cruelty. Their intelligence...

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Goblin

Goblins are a race of small and numerous goblinoids found throughout mainland Khorvaire.[5][6][1] Like their fellow goblinoids, hobgoblins and bugbears, goblins are native to the continent of Khorvaire.[5] Goblins may have in fact been initially created by the hobgoblins during the Age of...

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Bugbear

A bugbear is a massive humanoid distantly related to, but larger and stronger than, goblins and hobgoblins. Like many goblinoids, bugbears speak Goblin. They are one of the only goblinoids to be covered in fur. Like the other goblinoids in Eberron, bugbears were once part of the dominant...

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I could easily see the goblinoids being reworked in the book.

 

[Kobold Avenger]

Yeah, goblinoid PCs are a general thing now, not specific to Eberron. If there is a new "general" book they might be updated in that.

They aren't going to be updated that much from Monsters of the Multiverse which was developed around the same time that the 2024 core books were. They already addressed why Goblin PCs are Humanoids and not Fey when they were discussing the MM, so it definitely is a case of them maintaining that Goblin PCs are still Humanoids with the Fey Ancestry trait like PCs Elves are.

 

[Misanthrope Prime]

I fail to see how the changes to goblins in 5.5 really substantively change anything about eberron. All the retcon implies is that rather than just kind of popping up randomly on the planet of eberron they came to it from one of the planes that has fairies, and then they built their empire. Not really a big change