Eberron It Is? [UPDATED & CONFIRMED!]

As I said in the other thread, the question is now whether we're just going to see DMs Guild and PDF support, or whether, once the psionic and artificer rules are set, we'll be seeing something more substantial in the way of an actual published book. I have a feeling that once the necessary rules are in place (with a likely rules expansion book early next year for new classes and races), we'll be seeing a full book, and this is just to whet the appetite and get things started...

 

[Ath-kethin]

Yes. And so is this:

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[lkj]

Also available on DDB:

https://www.dndbeyond.com/marketplace/source/37

 

[lkj]

So it looks to be a 140 to 150 page pdf (or e-book with benefits through DDB). This is more substantial than a 32 page nod and less substantial than a hardcover book. Obviously for those wanting a print version, this will be inadequate. But for those looking for a substantial treatment, this seems pretty ambitious. Though I do note that there aren't class options (like the Artificer). Wonder what the UA will be today . . .

Edit to add: And looking more closely at the announcement they list the 'wayfinder's guide' as a first step. So suggests ongoing support?

Seems like doing substantial electronic treatments might be a good compromise. Saves the cost of printing, avoids splitting fanbase in print products, but gives the material to the hard core fans who want it. Unfortunately, I've never been that into Eberron. Here's hoping for Greyhawk and others getting similar treatment down the road.

AD

 

[Ath-kethin]

So it looks to be a 140 to 150 page pdf (or e-book with benefits through DDB). This is more substantial than a 32 page nod and less substantial than a hardcover book. Obviously for those wanting a print version, this will be inadequate. But for those looking for a substantial treatment, this seems pretty ambitious. Though I do note that there aren't class options (like the Artificer). Wonder what the UA will be today . . .

AD

According to the product page, the PDF is 176 pages. Sweet.

And the art released for use on dmsguild us fantastic, and has a ton of pieces that fit any weird fantasy theme.

 

[Ralif Redhammer]

Pretty excited for this. Eberron is a setting I had wanted to get to back in 3e, but never got around to it. Now I’m seriously considering setting my next campaign in Eberron. Looking at the TOC, I’m a bit surprised there aren’t any monsters listed.

Still, I wish there was a POD option for the pdf.

 

[ccs]

So it looks to be a 140 to 150 page pdf (or e-book with benefits through DDB). This is more substantial than a 32 page nod and less substantial than a hardcover book. Obviously for those wanting a print version, this will be inadequate. But for those looking for a substantial treatment, this seems pretty ambitious. Though I do note that there aren't class options (like the Artificer). Wonder what the UA will be today . . .

AD

So it's 150 pages of fluff?
That you can already get? That all of you crying for this setting no doubt already have?

Meh.

 

[Benathalis]

Actually the book is a 176 page PDF with plenty of crunch. At least that is what it seems to me so far.

 

[MNblockhead]

Interesting. I'm neutral on campaign setting books. So Ravinica, Eberron, Planescape, are all the same to me as I've never played any of them. Greyhawk would be about the only one I would take a risk on buying sight unseen because of nostalgia. As they are released, I'll check them out. I think releasing a brand new setting for 5e makes a lot of sense and making that a MtG cross over moreso. They want to attrack new players and having a setting made from a much more popular game can help with that. It also puts new players and old players on the same footing in terms of setting knowledge.

For old settings, I would like to see them rerelease with updates for 5e on Dungeon Master Guild as PDFs with a print on demand option.

I'm also happy to see the new 5e Eberron book available on DnD Beyond. I would likely not buy it if only available as PDF as I hate reading in that format. But for $19 it might be nice to get so that I can use the new races, magic items, and monster in my game, even I never run an Eberron campaign.

 

[Jester David]

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Here ya go. The table of contents.

 

[SuperTD]

"More enfranchised D&D fans may know that Keith Baker created the Eberron setting as part of the Fantasy Setting Search conducted in 2002, and the D&D team has been working with him to update the setting. The first step is the Wayfinder’s Guide to Eberron, a digital release in the Dungeon Masters Guild online marketplace, which will serve to collect feedback on adjusted races, dragon marks, new backgrounds and more. Fans can also use this document as a jumping off point to create their own monsters, adventure modules, and other tabletop content set within Eberron and put it up for sale on the Dungeon Masters Guild (dmsguild.com)."

Emphasis mine. This implies that the crunch in this pdf is still being monitored for playtesting and we may get a revised hardcover version later.

 

[kbrakke]

I was already excited enough for Ravnica, but getting this on this day was basically the best possible. Reading over the guide now, it is very spicy. I love it.

The writeups on all the races is perfect. Warforged definitely give that first read WOW! with their armor shifting abilities, but after actually thinking of the numbers, I am less impressed. Very good if no magic armors exist, but not out of wack. (Though a baseline 22 AC at level 17 is pretty nice for those str warforged)

Changelings are very nice, love the new alter-ego trait. But as a DM I am always warry of letting the players run wild with the shape change ability.

I skimmed the full section on Sharn that they have (Another A+ from me, Sharn is the #1 city in the multiverse, fight me) having run several games there it meets my goals of having information for DMs and these wonderful sections with just ideas for why players are there, what you can do with the locations, stories that might start there. Things that get the creative juices flowing even if you're not just setting an adventure in Sharn or Eberron.

Also, that magic item section. More common items that make Eberron feel like the magical industrial revolution happened. I wish I had that idea for Glammerweave rather than my dull persuasion and perfomance bonus. The writeup on Eldritch Machines as plot devices and some examples. Absolutely beautiful.

I have not gotten to reading the dragonmarks yet, but honestly, this has far exceeded any of my expectations.

I could have lived my life if they never updated Eberron for 5e, I am perfectly capable of using the same places and names and plots as the 3.5 book. And honestly until now I didn't feel the clamor for "Update my favorite setting x" was reasonable, to say nothing of the bizarre vitriol aimed at Ravnica. But if all the settings updates are on the level of this one, I understand wanting more. Frankly, if this is an indication for how they will do their setting books going forward, then I'm even more exited for the Ravnica book than I was before.

Current rating - Things that I have read 9/10 - Still need to read dragonmarks.

Edit: Just started on dragonmarks. They replace subrace for some races or make a new variant//subrace for others. Everyone can start at level 1 with a dragonmark and I love how they did it. So far so good.

Edit2: Intuition dice are granted by the marks to give you a bonus to skills. If you gain multiple instances of intuition on a skill the die size increases. Given that I love the dice chain idea of Dungeon Crawl Classics, this is such an easy sell for me. Love it.

Edit3: And the dragonmarks actually alter your racial score bonuses. This truly makes the dragonmark a part of your character concept. It's perfect.

 

[lkj]

So it's 150 pages of fluff?
That you can already get? That all of you crying for this setting no doubt already have?

Meh.

I presume you've seen the table of contents at this point and realize it's not 150 pages of fluff (I presume the races, backgrounds, and dragonmarks aren't fluff). And I was wrong on the page count (176), since I was too dense to look at the product page.

AD

 

[darjr]

And guild adept stuff is showing up!

 

[DQDesign]

I think they will have Keith Baker publishing something like last Ed Greenwood product http://www.dmsguild.com/m/product/244431
I think it will be out today or tomorrow and we will be soon able to use it to submit stuff on the Guild.

Ok, I'm officially a prophet, who wants to join a new, fantastic religion? we have biscuits.

 

[Eirikrautha]

Hmmm, I seem to remember someone from WotC suggesting that grognards would be happy with this release. "Grognard" = French for Napolean's "Old Guard." Old guard does not translate to me as a setting developed for 3.5.

That said, Keith Baker is a talented dude and produces some good stuff. Still, I havent seen anything compelling in this setting to offset the opportunity cost of the new mechanics (dragon marks), et al.

This will be the second book they've published that I won't buy (with the first being the Ravnica one announced today). Oh well, I guess they'll get around to the other settings I want to see. It just irritates me that I can get Ravnica or Ebberon stuff on DMsGuild, but not Spelljammer, Planescape, or Greyhawk. Open them all...

 

[Kobold Avenger]

I haven't got the PDF yet since I'm at work, but I noticed with that posted TOC it doesn't have a Kalashtar entry in it. And I suspect that's because they're tied to the still in development Psionic rules.

I feel that the statement "which will serve to collect feedback on adjusted races, dragon marks, new backgrounds and more" is also sort of a way of saying "hold on and wait while we complete the Artificer and other things". In some ways it feels like this will be a beta version or the equivalent of Steam Early Access.

 

[ad_hoc]

This is an odd move to me.

I feel like there will be a lot of people who like both Ravnica and Eberron and lots who like neither.

I would have thought (and hoped) that they would release 2 settings which are very different from each other.

Alas I have struck out on these releases but congrats to those who are getting what they wanted.

 

[LizardWizard00]

So it's 150 pages of fluff?
That you can already get? That all of you crying for this setting no doubt already have?

Meh.

fortunately you are wrong on this one. Quite a bit of crunch with the needed fluff. Campaign settings aren't my thing, but I might pass this on to my DM so we can use the player content

 

[darjr]

[video=youtube;4oRRP354Ir8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oRRP354Ir8[/video]https://youtu.be/4oRRP354Ir8

 

[iltharanos]

I haven't got the PDF yet since I'm at work, but I noticed with that posted TOC it doesn't have a Kalashtar entry in it. And I suspect that's because they're tied to the still in development Psionic rules.

I feel that the statement "which will serve to collect feedback on adjusted races, dragon marks, new backgrounds and more" is also sort of a way of saying "hold on and wait while we complete the Artificer and other things". In some ways it feels like this will be a beta version or the equivalent of Steam Early Access.

The Kalashtar are actually in there, I'm looking at them right now. It looks like they were erroneously excluded from the TOC.