Eladrin Rogue Questions - skills and feats ?

[Istar]

Excellent guys, rreally really helpful and clears up a lot of confusion.
Great insight for me.

Any idea's on other magic besides weapons.
Special items that add to the Rogue.

Boots / Cloaks / Rings and stuff ?

 

[Istar]

Okay CA, I am getting the idea now, is what the Rogue is all about.
And it seems there are lots of ways to get it.

This means when the Rogue has it, he gets +2 TH.
+1 for a Dagger.
+1 for Nimble Blade.

And he can make a special attack from the skills list, and also get SA as well.

Do opportunity attacks come up a lot, as "Two-Weapon Flurry" seems good.

Do opportunity attacks give you CA ?

 

[Istar]

Can Rogue's use Shields, I cant see detail for or against.

Not for general play but when things lok bad and push comes to shove and the whole party has to run away, bringing out a shield as you hoof it can give a small boost to your AC (well maybe thats just 2nd Edition)

 

[themilkman]

This means when the Rogue has it, he gets +2 TH.
+1 for a Dagger.
+1 for Nimble Blade.

The condition of combat advantage also yields a +2 bonus to hit. When your rogue has CA against a bad guy, if your Dex is 20, then you should have a total to-hit bonus of +12 with dexterity-based dagger attacks (+5 dex mod, +3 weapon prof, +1 dagger talent, +1 nimble blade, +2 combat advantage). As you level up, you will also add 1/2 your level to this roll, rounded down.

Do opportunity attacks come up a lot, as "Two-Weapon Flurry" seems good.

If you are fighting from melee, then they might come up from time to time. Two things to keep in mind, though: First, you can only apply sneak-attack damage once per turn, so if you hit someone with it on your last turn, then you won't be able to apply sneak attack damage to your opportunity attacks. Second, opportunity attacks are melee basic attacks, and melee basic attacks use strength for to-hit and damage. Your puny little daggers won't be doing much without sneak attach damage, especially if they're using your strength modifier for damage. Adding another puny little attack (at a serious to-hit penalty) probably won't be so useful.

Do opportunity attacks give you CA ?

You get CA for opportunity attacks the same way that you get it for any other attack. If you are flanking an enemy and he draws an opportunity attack, then you have CA. If an enemy is blinded or dazed and draws an opportunity attack, then you get CA. However, you do not gain CA just by virtue of making an opportunity attack.

Can Rogue's use Shields, I cant see detail for or against.

Rogues don't start with shield proficiency (check the armor proficiency line in the Rogue's big stat block at the beginning of its PHB section). However, there is nothing to stop you from picking up the Light Shield Proficiency feat if you have the 13 strength. However, consider the following: You can get the same defense bonuses from Two-Weapon Defense, if you want to go that route, though you will have to take Two-Weapon Fighting as a prerequisite. On the other hand, Two-Weapon Fighting will also give you another +1 to damage. (In paragon tier, though, you can grab Shield Specialization and get another +1 to AC and Ref.) Also, If you use a magical shield, you can't use magical bracers. I haven't looked, but since Rogues don't start with shield proficiency, I'm sure that there are more useful bracers out there than shields for the purposes of being a rogue.

 

[Istar]

Excellent stuff this thread is a revelation.

Okay "Two-Fisted Shooter" this looks good.

With Daggermaster 15% crit chance thats another attack you can sneak in with a Crossbow in your off hand.

Am I right in saying that as long as you dont shoot someone adjacent to you, you wont cause an opportunity attack ?

I can almost visualise this crazy rogue stabbing someone in the back while shooting a bolt at range enemy, then reloading it one handed as a free action next turn..

Like some kind of turbo charged Ninja.

 

[Istar]

Okay sorry guys I have a few more.

Everyone has been really helpful.

"Rogue Weapon Mastery" high crit 2D10 and 3D10 must be a no brainer on 18 to 20 crits.

Man Daggermaster rocks when you start adding it all up.

And 20 Dex at Level 1 is brilliant.

Does any other race make for a better Daggermaster Brawny Rogue than Eladrin ??

I am thinking this fey step aint quite as hot as it looked at first.

 

[Mort_Q]

Am I right in saying that as long as you dont shoot someone adjacent to you, you wont cause an opportunity attack ?

Any enemy that is adjacent to you gets an OA, not just your target. Too bad Shimmering Armour is cloth only.

 

[Stalker0]

If your eladrin, get your int to 13 and take jack of all trades, to me its the only reason to put anything other than an 8 in int unless your a class that uses the stat.