Level Up (A5E) Eldritch Scythe+ maneuvers?

[MehGyver]

Agreed. We all have one of those players. My player swore up and down I was wrong until I highlighted the text, then whined that his character build was ruined.

This is why i was looking for a more official ruling, and you can't get more official than Morrus.

 

[MehGyver]

Point him to the Dread Knight in GPG #8. It has what he needs.

Still haven't purchased any of the GPG's. So far we're just working off of the Core books and what's on A5E.tools.
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[Langy]

I don't see the confusion? If you use the scythe you make a melee spell attack. I can't see any alternative reading.

I think the confusion might be: "I use the Attack action and use one of these maneuvers, which includes a melee weapon attack. Eldritch Scythe lets me replace a melee weapon attack with an Eldritch Scythe attack, so I do that, which makes it so the maneuver now is using a melee spell attack even though it specified it required a melee weapon attack."

Of course, if the maneuver says it "requires" a melee weapon attack that's different from how Eldritch Scythe replaces a "melee weapon attack" with a "melee spell attack"; Eldritch Scythe lets you do a melee spell attack instead of a melee weapon attack for things that let you do a melee weapon attack, but they don't make it so you can do anything that requires a melee weapon attack using a melee spell attack instead.

 

[Sepulchre]

By RAW, any maneuver that lets you take the attack action, then allows you to replace a weapon attack with eldritch scythe. Of course, eldritch scythe is a melee spell attack, and most maneuvers only benefit weapon attacks. So the scythe won’t get any riders from the maneuver, which is often the point.

Only a few maneuvers actually require a specific weapon attack. Nothing stops a player from blowing 3 exertion to use stunning assault and attacking with a longbow, for example. The ranged weapon attacks just won’t trigger the save-or-stun effect.