Enough is enough: Let's do something about Driizzt do'Urden

[Sunseeker]

I hate the Drizzt clones because I was playing a Drow Druid/MU/Ranger in about 1984- 4 years before he even showed up- and now everyone who sees that PC for the first time says "OH NOES! DRIZZLE CLONE!" (Other party members include an archmage who wears pointy hats and robes, and an elf with a bow, FWIW.)

This is probably the worst result of bad fantasy characters like Drizzet, is that they suck the originality out of character creation. You can't make a drow two-weapon whatever because ZOMG DRIZZET. You can't make an elf with a bow because ZOMG LEGOLAS! People who still want to make that kind of a character either get railed on by people or go so far out of their way to make them "different", that it all gets lost.

Stereotypes are fun, cliches can be fun, in moderation.

 

[Oryan77]

I think you're mixing up options with imitating a specific character.

I'm not interested in defending my statements or trying to prove I'm right about the various concepts I pointed out. Obviously you're right and I will just have to 'agree to agree' with you.

That's why this thread was created; to remind people how Drizzt & FR sucks. So of course you're going to blast every point I make. I don't really feel like arguing with someone about it because I already know I'm a moron for liking Drizzt and FR. I'm also not as intelligent as people that prefer the more adult authors since I actually enjoy reading Salvatore's writing. Obviously guys like Robert Jordan & Tolkien are better to read because they spend more time explaining the design on a woman's blouse & the detail of a bush and less time on childish stuff like Salvatore does.

Whether you want to admit it or not, a Drizzt clone is nothing other than just another character concept. If Drizzt was never created as a FR character, somewhere, at some time, players would be making a Drow Ranger with 2-weapon fighting as their character concept. The only reason people are ok with other played out concepts is because we want to look cool on the internet by complaining about what everyone else complains about.

I'm not going to nitpick what is or isn't a character concept. Every aspect you choose for a PC right down to the style of clothing he wears is part of the character concept. A dwarf with a Scottish accent is nothing more than a character concept. I don't care what region the dwarf mythology comes from. No other races from other cultures mythology are portrayed with a distinct human culture accent as dwarves are. I'd rather play with a player using a Drizzt clone than a player using a Scottish Dwarf any day.

*Edit - and see, Dannyalcatraz was probably the first guy to start playing a Drizzt clone. So stop blaming Salvatore, we need to blame Dannyalcatraz!

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Ain't no Drow pcs in my campaign.

It's a very simple solution.

What about elves in blackface?

(For the record, I'm black, and I approved that joke.)

 

[Oryan77]

(For the record, I'm black, and I approved that joke.)

It doesn't make you any less racist man.

 

[Diamond Cross]

No, but it makes him a pacist.

Because comedy is all about timing.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

It doesn't make you any less racist man.

Nah- it makes me MORE racist! Like The Boondocks' Uncle Ruckus.

OK, maybe not that bad.

 

[Crothian]

Things like this don't bother me. If the player wants to model his caracter off of Drizzt, River, or Ghost Rider the more power to them as long as they have fun.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Somewhere else, I talked about making a new PC- a .5Orc Bard named Krunk...Krunk Kronik, based on rapper stereotypes & lyrics, obviously. Perhaps HE can combat the omnipresent, overexposed Drizzt?

KRUNK KRONIK
.5Orc Bard

• Been shot by crossbow bolts 9 times & survived
• in serious situations, vows to succeed...or die trying
• Loves the ladies
• has a staff & cup, and often waves his hands in the air, seemingly without care
• has 99 problems...
• has reckless diamonds, including a diamond encrusted medallion shaped like a midget, and another that is a carriage wheel
• likes large, aggressive dogs
• has a very expensive carriage drawn by high-quality horses, which has wheels that appear to be in motion, even when the carriage is stopped
• wants you to dowatchalike
• always shares his intoxicants
• has a shady past and an unusually high street rep for an entertainer
• is down with OPP, since he is seemingly naughty by nature (see above)
• has gold covering his orcish fangs
• always fills his wineskin with the finest of sparkling wines
• knows that there is no sex in the champagne room...but also knows how to get champagne in the sex room

 

[Hellzon]

9. The Gnome Illusionist. If it's a Gnome, he has to be an Illusionist. This is probably as frequent as the Drizzt clone.

The two gnomes in my group are a monk and a cleric. But then gnomes in that campagin are equal parts The Catholic Church, diaspora Jews and master sailors (because they were diasporized to an archipelago).

 

[Oryan77]

Nah- it makes me MORE racist! Like The Boondocks' Uncle Ruckus.

OK, maybe not that bad.

I'm all for some good humored racial jokes even when it's at my expense as a white guy. But I can't stand that show. And when I told my wife about how racist it is towards white people (she's Afghan) and it just happened to be on while I was channel surfing, I turned to it and said, "Watch....". Within 30 seconds, as the old guy is thinking back about his time as a fighter pilot in WW2, he says, "....and I got to shoot me some white people!" That actually pissed me off. I don't see how that show is allowed on the air. Not only did it only take me 30 seconds to show my wife how racist that show is, but a character was actually happy to say that he killed white people. Not Nazis....white people.

Well, this probably isn't the place to bring that up. But I felt like sharing.

S

• Been shot by crossbow bolts 9 times & survived
• Loves the ladies
• has a staff & cup, and often waves his hands in the air, seemingly without care
• has 99 problems...
• has reckless diamonds, including a diamond encrusted medallion shaped like a midget
• likes large, aggressive dogs
• has a very expensive carriage drawn by high-quality horses
• wants you to dowatchalike
• always shares his intoxicants
• has a shady past and an unusually high street rep for an entertainer

Don't forget the gold orc tooth grill. And he also needs a diamond encrusted wagon wheel medallion that actually spins.