Enterprise 6-May-03

[Silver Moon]

..."We'll show them! Let's go to the DQ and find those damn thingies!"

I tried that. All I got at the local DQ was a Blizzard shake and a Dilly Bar.

 

[MaxKaladin]

Actually, the phaser thing made perfect sense to me.

On the Enterprise, Reed and his security team shot one of the bad guys with a phase gun and it didn't kill it. The borg adapted and transmitted the info to the other borg who was just around the corner. Thus, both Borg were adapted.

On the Borg ship, the first few Borg Archer and Reed encountered were alone and were taken down by the first shot. Presumably, they had time to neither adapt or transmit any information. When they encountered multiple borg at once, they shot the first one or two, but the others were present to analyze the beam and adapt, which they did and their weapons were no longer able to penetrate the Borg shields.

Seems logical to me.

 

[Mark]

Re: Continuity or "Why the heck hadn't Picard heard of the Borg"

Time is not necessarily linear. The Picard who came back to protect Cochran from the Borg may not exist in the future of the current Enterprise timeline. The events of the past for the Picard who traveled back in time to protect Cochran may not have included the events in the current Enterprise timeline. The only way to discuss continuity (which includes temporal changes) is to accept that anything that has, is happening or will happen may not be what exists at any time then, now or in the future. It's part of the canonicity of Star Trek.

 

[Viking Bastard]

Eh... what?!?

I like my explaination better. Paradoxes are annoying.

 

[Mark]

Eh... what?!?

I like my explaination better. Paradoxes are annoying.

...and they're canon...

 

[fba827]

Those were the Borg that had boarded the Enterprise being transported back to the other ship, IIRC.

More borg on the enterprise? Thought there were just the two (that were later ejected by Archer) - none of the others had boarded (at least not that I saw).

The borg that seemed to transport had the background of the transport ship - some were moving the explosives but then there were others.

At least, that is how I remember it. I don't claim to have a perfect memory

Guess I'll just wait for a repeat sometime and catch that

 

[Mark]

Guess I'll just wait for a repeat sometime and catch that

The rerun begins here in *edit* one and a *end edit* half hours. I'll try to watch for that in particular and post again later.

 

[myrdden]

Eh... what?!?

I like my explaination better. Paradoxes are annoying.

...which is why I hate how much they use time travel as a plot device. It's ok once and a while (like "Yesterday's Enterprise") but using too much strains credibility and suspension of disbelief.

I think I'm going to have to agree with Mark to a certain degree with regards to paradoxes being canon. Anything can change at anytime and that's just part of the show.

Myrdden

 

[Mark]

Just saw that scene and those Borg had boarded the Enterprise and were transported back to the other vessel just before the explosion.

I like that they made sure not to use the Borg name in this episode and that they can effectively explain the sub-space message not being able to reach "deep in the Delta Quadrant" for two hundred years. A second viewing also bears out that they don't gloss over the "adapting to phasers" tech, either. I think they've done a fine job of keeping things in order for those who usually get up in arms over that sort of thing. It shows they've listened, they care and yet they still want to make use of all of the tricks they have in the bag to draw in viewers. Enterprise might be on the ropes but it still has some punches to throw.

 

[Crothian]

It was a fun little episode. As the other star trek series were made first and happened later, I never expected Enterprise to build the perfect past that those shows were builot off of.