Epic Level Character Class Thoughts

The Druid contra the Cleric question:
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I feel that both the Druid and the Cleric have three rôles; Spellcaster (Healer), Item creator, Combatant.

Undead zapping is really a side show, that may or may not be important in a campaign or adventure.

Thing is, a cleric with the plant and animal domains, can do everything a Druid can EXCEPT wildshape, in better armour, and with more spells / level.

Add in the fact that at Epic Level, the Cleric is getting four Epic feats for every three the Druid earns and it isn't so impressive.

Also considering you can't just decide to take Colossal Wildshaping, or Dragon Shape, they both have requirements that burn up earlier feat slots (admittedly not wimpy feats, but still burning up the choices of the player), and what should be valuable skill points.

This means that you'll never see big variety in the abilities of Druids, which is a shame, IMO.

sorcerer and wizard debate:
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Another concern I have, is the wimpiness of the sorcerer compared to the specialist wizard at epic levels.

At non-epic levels, the spells/day demon IS the sorcerer, as he should be. But not so at Epic levels.

The feat that causes this is called "Increased Spell Capacity". IIRC. It grants the wizard or sorcerer 1 spell slot/day of a higher spell level than what they can cast at prior to taking the feat. If you have a high enough Stat you gain bonus spell slots in the new increased Spell level.

THEN if you are a specialist wizard, you gain a further bonus spell slot at that level. This means that at 40 th level, the difference in spells/day between a straight wizard and a sorcerer will be all but meaningless, and the bonus spell slots granted to a specialist will cause him to have far greater number of far more powerful spells, without the hindrance of a "known spells" (the increase of which cost the sorcerer a further feat!) limitation.
 

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Slight tangent. I noticed that a fighter who puts all of his feats into damage resistance can become pretty much immune to all melee attacks by 30th level. Do you think it's worth it?
 

kenjib.....

It does look odd until you begin to notice that the dominant proportion of villians a party is likely to face will be less dependent on weapon attacks. It is pretty darn easy to balance this from a dm's perspective.
 

So the fighters immune to melee combat? Guess the villains are going to be smart and not engage him in melee combat then!

Seriously, as soon as you start specialising in one area, you'll realise that everything else suffer quite badly in comparison. In the case of that fighter, his ability to hit and kill targets in melee combat will decrease compared to another fighter, and his defenses to other forms of attack (elemental, save-or-die etc) will also be poor.

It does balance up.
 

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Kai Lord said:


A 29th level Ranger could take Epic Spellcasting, if he spent five feats on Improved Spell Capacity (its one of the Ranger bonus feats.) Fighter BAB and hit points, 4 skill points per level, favored enemies, and Epic Spells. Damn Rangers rock.

Well, they would need Spellcraft 24 ranks which is not a class skill for Rangers. So, one would either need a DM that allows a feat that makes Spellcraft a class skill, multi class to get the ranks in it, or wait until 45th level Ranger to get Epic Spellcasting.
 

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Crothian said:


Well, they would need Spellcraft 24 ranks which is not a class skill for Rangers. So, one would either need a DM that allows a feat that makes Spellcraft a class skill, multi class to get the ranks in it, or wait until 45th level Ranger to get Epic Spellcasting.

Or they could just take the Cosmopolitan: Spellcraft feat. Cosmopolitan makes any one skill a class skill.
 

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Kai Lord said:


Or they could just take the Cosmopolitan: Spellcraft feat. Cosmopolitan makes any one skill a class skill.


Right, which falls under the "one would either need a DM that allows a feat that makes Spellcraft a class skill..." Not everybody allows the FRCS feats. :D
 

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Crothian said:



Right, which falls under the "one would either need a DM that allows a feat that makes Spellcraft a class skill..." Not everybody allows the FRCS feats. :D

Well if the DM didn't allow it they could just multiclass to get the ranks in it.
 

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