Eve of Mirkwood [Full]

[Shayuri]

You never...oh...right.

As I was reading the various Tokien Wikis, Quenya seemed to be to be the logical choice to me too! Sort of an older, "purer" Elvish from the old Valinor days. Since she's probably considered a Silvan elf, that is, only Eldar in the most technical sense, or of mixed lineage, I can see her taking an interest in the elves that went to the Undying Lands and returned.

I like your idea too that the Black Speech is related to Quenya. It makes a sort of sense too. Quenya was most likely a very common language on Valinor, and could easily have been adopted by Melkor before he escaped back to Middle Earth before the War of Wrath. From there it becomes the "official" language of the Orcs, and over time assumes a unique regional dialect that is called the Black Speech by soft, pasty elves and humans.

So a Quenya speaker could probably work out the gist of Black Speech, though subtle nuances would be lost (which leaves room for learned sages and so on to be consulted when the details are important).

 

[renau1g]

Edit: Oh, and HPs: max 1st level then HPs + (HD x lvl) thereafter. Sorry, I thought I wrote that out on the first page.

So therefore a barbarian gets 12hp at level 1 and then 12 x 2 at second level (or 24hp?)

 

[Dlsharrock]

Yes, Quenya is the original language of the Elves, but doesn't predate everything. Valarin was the original tongue of the Valar but the Elves who dwelled in Valinor couldn't understand it and some sources suggest they disliked the language, probably because many of the words were extraordinarily long and complex and possibly because the Valar were effectively telepathic, so probably only used stilted sentences to bolster their meaning, rather than conversing fully with sound, when speaking to one another. The Valar spoke to the Elves in Quenya, but rarely used it with each other. And its no fun being the third wheel in a discussion you don't understand

The Elves borrowed some Valarin for Quenya. In that respect, Black Speech, invented by Sauron (a Maia) and Melkor (a Vala) borrowed greatly from Valarin as both were fluent in this language and Quenya, which formed the basic foundations. However, as Valarin is a quite exceptionally difficult language and probably near impossible to learn at this stage in Middle-Earth history, I'm not including it with Quenya/Black Speech. It's unlikely to ever come up anyway.

So therefore a barbarian gets 12hp at level 1 and then 12 x 2 at second level (or 24hp?)

12hp at level 1, then HDx2 *rolled* at second level. Of course, if you roll maximum then we're looking at one seriously hardy barbarian!

 

[Binder Fred]

Hey there Folks!
sorry I haven't been quite as active as before : I've just started a 7-day intensive course yesterday in far away northern Chibougamau, only to find out the hotel's internet isn't working/is presently being installed. So I'm now squatting *another* hotel's connection, same owner and not that far a walk from where I'm staying, thankfully. Anyways, just to say that I'm still here, if in a much dimnished state for the rest of the week.

Binder Fred, jogging off to his course now.

 

[Dlsharrock]

Anyways, just to say that I'm still here, if in a much dimnished state for the rest of the week.

I thought you looked smaller, must be all that jogging

Welcome back Binder, any attendance you can manage is very much appreciated!

 

[Redclaw]

So Aerec would have 12 hp for level 1, then 2d10+2 hp for level 2? I only rolled 1d10+2 here

 

[Dlsharrock]

Oh heckbum, it was late last night and wasn't making myself very clear. Sorry.

HPs:

As per DMG for players starting at level 2, at second level, you get maximum HPs (in Aerec's case, 12hps) then roll HD for the second level (which I wrote HD x 2, but I realise now how confusing that reads, sorry, probably better written as HD x lvl... no- that still looks like HD multiplied by the level) Well, hopefully you know what I mean. Basically- what you did is right.

 

[Shayuri]

Hee.

You can just say, "Use the rules for hit points as per the SRD and PHB."

Max at first, then rolled at each level past first.

 

[Redclaw]

Gotcha. That's too bad. 16 hp isn't a lot for a 2nd level fighter. Invisible Castle strikes again.

 

[Dlsharrock]

Could all players who've thus far had characters approved start thinking about finishing them up and posting them as completed character sheets. Include backgrounds, family trees (where applicable or has a point, ie if you want to be Fu, son of Bar, I'd like to know who Bar is), appearance and so forth. If you want to email your finished character to me that's ok. Use the email addy in my profile.

Renau1g, I intend to look at Ulfang properly this evening when I have time enough to give it my full attention. Hm, been a while since I visited Myth Weaver.

Thus far:

Shayuri - Aranel Amandil, the Elven go-between
Redclaw - Aerec, the Eotheod Fighter and all round horsemaster
Binder_Fred - *name pending* the Foredwarf at camp logging
Necro_Kinder - The righteous Knight of Gondor
Renau1g - Ulfang the disenfranchised and troubled Barbarian

Looks to me like Fenris has decided to withdraw from proceedings (which is a shame as his elven healer was looking good). If this is the case, a company of 5 is ample and I think we have ourselves a group