Falcon and winter solider

[Zaukrie]

It's not like they're all on a party phone line waiting for anyone to get a call. Sam responded to the situation because he had an inkling of what was going on having been involved. Spider-Man's got his own issues - maybe Sam called and got shunted to voicemail. Ant-Man is across the country in San Francisco, probably tackling other issues with the Wasp.

Like I said....I get it....I just noticed it for some reason.....nothing more or less than that.

 

[Maxperson]

It's not like they're all on a party phone line waiting for anyone to get a call. Sam responded to the situation because he had an inkling of what was going on having been involved. Spider-Man's got his own issues - maybe Sam called and got shunted to voicemail. Ant-Man is across the country in San Francisco, probably tackling other issues with the Wasp.

That only holds so much water and then spills. There are a TON of heroes to contact and they can't all be busy at once in every situation where a weaker hero is on the scene and could use help. Best in my opinion to just chalk it up to the story being about the hero in question, suspend some disbelief, and move on.

 

[Imaculata]

This. I keep myself informed, but I go to my entertainment to get away from real world issues(assuming I'm not picking a documentary or something to see an issue). I stopped watching the Oscars when every other speech was about a pet political view. I stopped watching football games in which saw players kneel. If they make a Captain America with Sam I will stop watching it if it's as political as this one. There are many avenues to get the word out and in my entertainment is not one that I will accept.

I'm of a different mindset. I love it when a show like this one dares to tackle current day issues. But I favor subtext over text. I like my social commentary not too heavy handed.

I agree though that the end justifies the means, but... it does make for a bit of a disappointing bookend to the show.

For example, I really liked the previous episode where Sam and Bucky fix the boat. To the casual viewer this scene was just about fixing a boat. But to those paying attention, it was really about fixing America. The scene made it clear that it was not something Sam could do by himself, but it's a start.

Not everyone will have understood the subtext. To some it may go way over the head, while to others it is pretty blatant. But that makes it subtle in my book. It found a good middle ground where I think most viewers will get it.

And it was so much better than Sam giving a lengthy lecture, like he did in the final episode. I appreciate the show for tackling these topical issues, but I wish they had stayed the course for the final episode.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Good points all, but even if all the Avengers were alive and waiting by the phone . . . .

Well, and the thing is, they wouldn't be waiting by the phone. I think the MCU has shown fairly well that they're all doing things off camera/between films.

Yep. I remember watching The Winter Soldier and thinking, "This whole movie could be resolved if Cap just called Tony Stark" lol.

That one was especially glaring, because it felt like a setup for an Avengers movie, ya know? And you wouldn't even need Stark to have real screen time, 5 minutes where he does some hacking or aerial shots in the showdown with HydraShield drones fighting Stark bots, whatever. I pull that sort of thing off all the time in my Eberron game where I've got several competent NPCs that I don't want to track in most fights.

 

[Umbran]

Or any of the other heroes we know are out there....Spider man? Ant man?

WandaVision happens some weeks after people reappear in The Blip. Falcon and Winter Soldier happens six months after people return. Spider-Man: Far From Home happens, iirc, 8 months after people return.

So, Peter Parker is in school, trying to get his life in order, and not in a position to go jet-setting around the world hunting terrorists. He would have been incredibly useful in the end fight in New York, I admit - he would probably have made mincemeat out of the super-soldiers (thwip, thwip all wrapped up by yoru friendly neighborhood Spider-Man!), but... Sam and Bucky are not going to call a kid in on these things. Scott Lang is usually on the West Coast, nowhere near most of the action, and possibly engaged in Quantumania for all we know.

There are dozens already introduced, let alone adding in more as time goes on......like I said, I get it. It's like the old question of where the other high level NPCs are in a "realistic" fantasy RPG when there are issues. It just struck me for some reason this time.....

The answer is typically, "dealing with their own crap". It isnt' like the rest of the world stands still while Sam and Bucky are doing their thing.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

I like my social commentary not too heavy handed.

So, what I mean when I say that it isn't heavy handed, is that Sam doesn't say anything that millions of people wouldn't say if they got a chance (and had time to prepare a speech beforehand, but I refuse to only sometimes hold a show to realistic dialogue standards. I don't need to hear Sam fumble words and say um a lot) to speak directly to the powerful in a situation where they pretty much have to listen, and are more likely to hear and listen to what is said than if they were comfortable in their seats of power.

The superhero stuff is the only unrealistic part of that scene.

 

[MarkB]

Like I said....I get it....I just noticed it for some reason.....nothing more or less than that.

It just seemed like an especially odd thing to notice at this particular point in the timeline, when we know that a lot of the other heroes are either out of commission or dealing with other things of their own. Any other time I'd be right there with you, but in this particular case there's plenty of reason for other people to be unavailable.

 

[Zaukrie]

It just seemed like an especially odd thing to notice at this particular point in the timeline, when we know that a lot of the other heroes are either out of commission or dealing with other things of their own. Any other time I'd be right there with you, but in this particular case there's plenty of reason for other people to be unavailable.

The number of responses to this one tiny part of my post outnumbers the responses to almost everything I post here about my products and videos. Clearly I need to change something on one set of posts or another

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

It just seemed like an especially odd thing to notice at this particular point in the timeline, when we know that a lot of the other heroes are either out of commission or dealing with other things of their own. Any other time I'd be right there with you, but in this particular case there's plenty of reason for other people to be unavailable.

It is also called not stealing the thunder from the characters the show/movie is about. The people who complain about someone like Elminster always showing up to save the day are probably the same ones who want Iron Man or Superman to show up and save the day. lol

Plus, at least in live-action stuff, there is a real world reason all the other heroes don't just show up all over the place: the money the actors would have to be paid for those appearances.

 

[Morrus]

The number of responses to this one tiny part of my post outnumbers the responses to almost everything I post here about my products and videos. Clearly I need to change something on one set of posts or another

Yeah. Welcome to my life.