Farewell to thee D&D

[Jürgen Hubert]

You know, as I think about it, I can't think of an RPG that I wouldn't play, if I liked my fellow players and (most importantly) the GM.

Well, I can. But on the other hand, I can't really imagine that I'd liked the kind of people who would even consider playing F.A.T.A.L. or RaHoWa...

 

[Starbuck_II]

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Cinnabar?

He could mean FATAL. I mean that one is pretty bad.

 

[Silverblade The Ench]

Stop thinking, just enjoy.
Jeesh!
"Taking one's self too serious" is what REALLY kills D&D.

 

[kibbitz]

This is the 21st century. There are many, many options available to you. OpenRPG, MapTools, RPGTonight, just to name three off hand. Yes, it's VTT, but, complaints that you absolutely cannot find a group are pretty easy to get around.

So, yes, finding a new group is like going to a grocery store. It really is that easy.



Cinnabar?

Did you mean World of Synnibar? I still don't know what to do with it... it cost so much that I'm not willing to throw it away, but every time I read it again, it hurts so much...

 

[Hussar]

Crap. Now that's embarrassing. Totally spelled that wrong. Yup, Synnibar. That's what I meant.

Now there was a joke that flopped like a dead fish.

 

[Mishihari Lord]

*shrug* It roughly equates to the same if I don't get a bad series of rolls. So be it.

Like I said, I'm not looking for argument. I'm looking for some people who might feel as I do.

(Raises hand) Right here, buddy. #1 and #7 are a particular problem to me. They pull my head right out of the gameworld.

I started playing WoW about a month ago (level 46 now ) and I now understand what people were saying. 4E is WoW. If that's fun for you great. Not for me. Actual WoW does it better, so I have no reason to go to 4E for my WoW fix.

 

[D'karr]

Another problem is that not many posters seem to be able to praise their own game system without putting down others. Even without the "compared to X, Y is sooooo much better" posts, opinions of new players are influenced by word of mouth. So, there is a fear that the more one system is hyped, the less people will play other games.
That may be a new experience for pure D&D users, but there was some strong hostility towards d20 at its heyday from players of otehr systems, and on one message board, D&D ius referred to as "that game that causes cancer".

Well, if that is the case it seems that D&D did rather well even if it caused cancer so I don't see the problem with people hyping what they like.

Crap. Now that's embarrassing. Totally spelled that wrong. Yup, Synnibar. That's what I meant.

Now there was a joke that flopped like a dead fish.

Hey I like Cinnabar... As a matter of fact I love it. They make these awesome cinnamon buns and when they are fresh out of the oven they are just heavenly.

 

[darkadelphia]

It sounds to me like your ideas of a good edition of D&D are very prescriptive. Your post suggests to me that third edition was the best because it was third edition. Sorry, the wizard's not arbitrarily the best anymore.

If you like third edition, play third edition--nothing more irritating than the "I will bash something everyone on this board likes, please don't argue or disagree" parting shot. I played AD&D through the entire run of 3.x, and never once did I darken the door of a 3.x forum to tell them why I didn't play their version. It's a waste of time.

 

[Mistwell]

Well, I just like to say that lucky for me I have some pretty good friends that decided to compromise with me. I've decided to stick around for the main 4E D&D group. And a couple of buddies who like both 4E and 3E said they will try Pathfinder. So I can still enjoy the casters and melees I like to play and tell stories with, and they can enjoy both games with our group of friends. So all is not lost.

I'm just happy to have buddies that can empathize with my dislike of 4E. Truly, I am a wizard at heart. I love playing a wizard that emulate the wizards I love from literature, not so much their powers as the feel of the mysterious, powerful wielder of arcane might that goes along quietly until it hits the fan and then goes off to help the party survive.

That type of wizard does not exist in 4E as everyone in the game is on equal footing. I know that appeals to quite a few people, so I can't fault it. But I like my casters to be able to nova and save the day. Same as some people like their fighters to be able to crit and level a giant in one mighty blow.

I'm just glad I was able to work out with my group a compromise. I didn't truly want to stop playing. But at the same time I didn't want to feel trapped playing 4E since I don't like it. Thanks to all those that empathised with my situation. A 25 year hobby is a hard thing to give up, and hard to do quietly and lightly.

You feel alot of passion for a game like D&D that only a fellow lover of the game understands. That passion runs hot. So I can understand the intensity of discussion both for and against 4E. I'm just glad myself that I won't be trapped playing a game I dislike. No way I could sit at a table and play 4E if I knew it were the only game I would have anyone to play with. I won't have it forced on me. But I can stomach playing 4E for a day a week in the company of friends knowing they will reciprocate and give me a chance to enjoy the game system I prefer.

I am glad you were able to work things out.

Now if only we can put this thread to bed

 

[billd91]

This is the 21st century. There are many, many options available to you. OpenRPG, MapTools, RPGTonight, just to name three off hand. Yes, it's VTT, but, complaints that you absolutely cannot find a group are pretty easy to get around.

So, yes, finding a new group is like going to a grocery store. It really is that easy.

You seriously think this is the same as finding a face to face gaming group? I've done plenty of on-line playing and it is not at all the same. It's like drinking Bud Lite because you can't find a decent beer. It'll get an addict through, but the experience in no way compares.