D&D 5E Favored Soul: Overpowered?

[Larac]

Now we have the Storm version with added spells again,

Seems to be a trend,

 

[Moorcrys]

If you don't allow MCing, and I don't, FS is OP: an arcane full caster, with access to all the best blasty spells - plus curing spells - one feat away from plate + shield. I guess compared to bard perhaps it isn't OP... I dunno, it's certainly a lot better than the original bard subclasses.

If you don't allow multiclassing, do you think it's still overpowered if you plug in the cleric's spell list for the sorcerer's? That's the way I've been leaning.

 

[Moorcrys]

Now we have the Storm version with added spells again,

Seems to be a trend,

Yeah, interesting. I'm wondering if this is the direction they're leaning to give sorcerer's a bit of a bump. I think it's a good way to go.

 

[FormerlyHemlock]

Yeah, interesting. I'm wondering if this is the direction they're leaning to give sorcerer's a bit of a bump. I think it's a good way to go.

If so I hope they retcon the PHB sorcs to give them a bonus list as well.

 

[CrusaderX]

If so I hope they retcon the PHB sorcs to give them a bonus list as well.

Agreed. Until then, maybe let the PHB sorcs use Cleric Domain spells. Maybe the Dragon sorcerer can pick the spells from either the War or Trickery domains, and the Wild Magic sorcerer can pick from either the Knowledge or Light domains?

 

[Mephista]

Agreed. Until then, maybe let the PHB sorcs use Cleric Domain spells. Maybe the Dragon sorcerer can pick the spells from either the War or Trickery domains, and the Wild Magic sorcerer can pick from either the Knowledge or Light domains?

Hmm... I'm not feeling it in light of the whole Domain thing being the Favored Soul trick. Plus, Dragon Sorcerer is defined pretty much by their elemental affinity - we'd want spells that reflect that. Maybe we can get Summon spells that reflect that, or Chromatic, etc. I personally have run it where dragon mages have access to any spells of the appropriate element. So, white dragon sorcerers get all cold spells in the game, etc. Maybe something along those lines?

Wild Magic needs... I'm not sure. Its hard to really grasp a wild mage's stile for me. Light domain is basically just fire, and knowing stuff doesn't feel very wild magicky. Doesn't feel like a fit to me.

 

[famousringo]

Now we have the Storm version with added spells again,

Seems to be a trend,

The other trend is flight. Practically a core class ability at this point.

Perhaps the folks who equate sorcery with superheroes are right.

 

[famousringo]

If so I hope they retcon the PHB sorcs to give them a bonus list as well.

Since the spell domains are one of two key 1st level abilities for these new subclasses, you'd need to give Favoured Soul and Stormborn another level 1 power. How would that sit with those who already think FS is overpowered?

I think I like it as it is. Pick this option for a martial flavour and maximum versatility, this option for more spells and to punish nearby enemies, pick this option for maximum spellpower and durability, pick this option for roll control and wacky surges of power.

 

[FormerlyHemlock]

Wild Magic needs... I'm not sure. Its hard to really grasp a wild mage's stile for me. Light domain is basically just fire, and knowing stuff doesn't feel very wild magicky. Doesn't feel like a fit to me.

Roll his spells randomly.

 

[FormerlyHemlock]

Since the spell domains are one of two key 1st level abilities for these new subclasses, you'd need to give Favoured Soul and Stormborn another level 1 power. How would that sit with those who already think FS is overpowered?

It would sit pretty well. Just give then some lame ability comparable to the dragon sorc's social advantage with dragons, but with gods from their pantheon, and you're good.

The main balance concern with Favored Soul is intra-class, not inter-class. At least, it is for me. I don't want it to be a dominant option relative to PHB options.