Feats to make weapon size more significant

[NewJeffCT]

You forgot Whirling Frenzy for an extra attack on that pounce, good sir. ;D

[sblock]Also useful:
Steadfast Boots (MIC; set vs. charge for x2 damage with any weapon) + Cometary Collision (PH2; can ready a charge to counter and interrupt anyone who tries to charge past your "charge radius").
There's also boots of the battle charger (also MIC), to charge as a standard 2/day, instead of cometary collision. But that's limited and some DMs might not let you take the swift action to activate the boots as part of your ready action. Also, to use both boots, you'd be paying extra for one of them to stack it.[/sblock]

Does the extra attack from whirling frenzy stack with the regular extra attack granted by frenzy?

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

Last I checked, you can stack rage and frenzy, so I don't see why you couldn't stack whirling frenzy with frenzy. Other than looking to spells like the one in your righteous rath of the faithful thread that give an extra attack and specifically don't stack with haste and extrapolating some sort of larger intent. But that's generally restricted to "haste bonuses," I don't recall any class features or attack options for more attacks not stacking with each other if there's no obvious reason they can't (example: manyshot is a standard action, rapid shot a full, and thus those have no way of stacking anyway). I'm...confused if a monk can flurry and TWF...trying to think of other non-haste examples...

 

[NewJeffCT]

Last I checked, you can stack rage and frenzy, so I don't see why you couldn't stack whirling frenzy with frenzy. Other than looking to spells like the one in your righteous rath of the faithful thread that give an extra attack and specifically don't stack with haste and extrapolating some sort of larger intent. But that's generally restricted to "haste bonuses," I don't recall any class features or attack options for more attacks not stacking with each other if there's no obvious reason they can't (example: manyshot is a standard action, rapid shot a full, and thus those have no way of stacking anyway). I'm...confused if a monk can flurry and TWF...trying to think of other non-haste examples...

well, I've taken this thread a bit off track... but, I could wipe out a whole high level party on a charge with pounce, leap attack, frenzy, whirling frenzy and supreme power attack - 6 attacks per round on the charge, then with supreme cleave, you've also got a 5 foot step in there as well.

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

Actually, you can't 5 ft step if you've moved in the round, which you will have if you charged. So even if you can take a 5 ft step between cleaves, you still need to have a 5 ft step. That being said, there are the monk set item from Magic Item Compendium (cobra strap sandals?) that lets you take a 5 ft step after an unarmed charge attack. I forget, but I'm pretty sure there's a Tiger Claw stance in Tome of Battle to do something similar, too.

And yes, this thread is getting way off track.

 

[NewJeffCT]

Actually, you can't 5 ft step if you've moved in the round, which you will have if you charged. So even if you can take a 5 ft step between cleaves, you still need to have a 5 ft step. That being said, there are the monk set item from Magic Item Compendium (cobra strap sandals?) that lets you take a 5 ft step after an unarmed charge attack. I forget, but I'm pretty sure there's a Tiger Claw stance in Tome of Battle to do something similar, too.

And yes, this thread is getting way off track.

well, after my party's dwarf fighter hit a balor 5 times in a round, with two crits, and nailed it for 200 points total damage, I need a power attacking charger type to put the fear of dying into them... (1 extra attack with haste)

 

[Square Peg]

My fault for uttering the words "Leap Attack" I suppose.

 

[Drowbane]

Last I checked, you can stack rage and frenzy, so I don't see why you couldn't stack whirling frenzy with frenzy. Other than looking to spells like the one in your righteous rath of the faithful thread that give an extra attack and specifically don't stack with haste and extrapolating some sort of larger intent. But that's generally restricted to "haste bonuses," I don't recall any class features or attack options for more attacks not stacking with each other if there's no obvious reason they can't (example: manyshot is a standard action, rapid shot a full, and thus those have no way of stacking anyway). I'm...confused if a monk can flurry and TWF...trying to think of other non-haste examples...

IIRC, Whirling Frenzy specifically calls out that it doesn't grant stack additional attacks.

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Rage Variant: Whirling Frenzy
A barbarian with this variant form of rage doesn't gain the normal bonuses when he enters a rage. Instead, when a barbarian with whirling frenzy enters a rage, he temporarily gains a +4 bonus to Strength and a +2 dodge bonus to Armor Class and on Reflex saves. While in a whirling frenzy, the barbarian may make one extra attack in a round at his highest base attack bonus, but this attack takes a -2 penalty, as does each other attack made that round. This penalty applies for 1 round, so it also affects attacks of opportunity the barbarian might make before his next action.

Whirling frenzy is otherwise identical to the standard barbarian rage in all other ways. At 11th level (when a standard barbarian gains greater rage), the Strength bonus increases to +6, and the dodge bonus to Armor Class and on Reflex saves increases to +3. At 20th level (when a standard barbarian gains mighty rage), the Strength bonus increases to +8, and the dodge bonus to Armor Class and on Reflex saves increases to +4.

A barbarian using this variant doesn't gain indomitable will at 14th level. Instead, he gains evasion, but only while in a whirling frenzy.

A character can't use whirling frenzy at the same time that he uses any other form of rage (or similar ability).

Thats what I was thinking of.

So you can Rage/Frenzy (prc version) but you can't Rage / Whirling Frenzy / Frenzy or anyother combonation of whacky-rage using Whirling Frenzy.

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

Yeah, I usually ignore that line, because it seemed stupid to me. It's replacing rage, why can't it stack with things rage would stack with? Oh well, by RAW it won't stack. By RAW and being a rules laywering RBDM, you can even point out that while it states you do not gain the normal benefits of rage, it says nothing about not suffering the normal penalties...even though that's CLEARLY the intent (WF is rather pathetic with the AC penalty included, and considering WF GIVES an AC bonus...).

 

[Darklone]

Deadly Defense feat: +1d6 damage when fighting defensively and having nothing in the offhand.

Wasnt that simply +1d6 damage if you fight defensively with light weapons?

I was pretty sure it worked with TWF.

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

I know it doesn't work if you have a shield, I think it does work for TWF, though. I worded that poorly.