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Female Dragonborn - No longer have breasts?

VannATLC said:
Grrr.

Did you ever take the carrying capacity changes underhand with Halflings (For being small?)
That and they need a -4 to strength.. or they all look like pocket hercules.

If, anywhere, it was fluffed that they were magically super-halflingly strong for their size, I'd be better with it. But its not.
Ah, but you're trying to apply real-world physics to a fantasy game... no different than complaining about breasts on a magical reptile person.
 

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No, I'm applying consistency, or physics, at least. Not neccessarily OUR real-world-physics.

A Str 16 halfling can apparently lift almost 6 times its own body weight, straight over its head.

This is where my inner consistency checker comes into play, and starts beeping madly.
 

Well, the back story for Dragonborn in the world I'm creating for 4e is that they wer

wel if, the back story for Dragonborn in the world I'm creating for 4e is that they were created by dragons to be their intermediaries with the humans.

Dragons might have studied human behavior for a long time and noticed that during necotiations humen females somtimes tended to show some cleavage that seem to have a possitive efect in their point in the negotiations.
Even though the dragons diden't quite understand this obsesion of the human male with thise blobs of flesh used to feed the welps of the species.
In their wisdom they might have decided to give the female dragonborn simular features, as they seemed somting the human female used to her advantage in negotiations with human males.
 

raven_dark64 said:
To argue that dragonborn have true breasts is to argue that they are also mammals (since there is no such thing as a mammal that doesn't breast feed its young).
No it's not. It simply points to Convergent Evolution

Two different species (or races) sharing similar traits. Happens all the time in nature. Biology 101.

End of Pseudo-Science Discussion.
 

Spatula said:
Excellent. I await the return of the 3' halfling, then.
Not to say the current status of Halflings is better or worse than the old, but there's a difference between what makes sense scientifically and what makes sense in general when constructing a fantasy world. Scientific inaccuracies can only bother those who know the specific laws and theorem's that are being broken; general concepts like "guy the size of a small child having near the strength of someone nearly twice his size" is a lot easier for the average person to see as inconsistant as it's not scaling, even though it's actually scientifically possible (seriously, chimps, while smaller than humans, are crazy strong)

I mean, technically, dragons shouldn't be able to fly. At all. They're too big and way too heavy for wings to be able to keep them aloft without some sort of thrust. But for someone who isn't that familiar with the how-to's of flight it's easy for them to imagine an ability that birds have scaling to a creature that dwarfs (halflings?) an elephant. So long as the big creature has big wings, it doesn't set off any alarms.

I'd file Dragonborn breasts into the same category (You know, if you go ahead and ignore the "MADE BY DIETIES" origin.). The vast majority of people aren't going to know enough about biology to really care about it.
 

Considering that 3rd Ed dragons can create Nonsterile hybrids with anything that strikes their fancy we're already well into the realm of fantasy land there. I dont remember anyone complaining this much about half-dragons with boobs, and they're going to have similar issues with Dragonborn, WITHOUT 'They were created by the gods that way' to help things out.
 

I complain all the time about half-dragons. ;)
In fact, for me, 3rd edition dragons are simply horny animals without any awe and respect.
 


Seriously, I mean, the very first example of a Half-Dragon in the 3rd edition Monster Manual was that of an Half-Red Dragon/Half-Troll... If you're so horny that you would even bang a troll, it just proves that dragons would also do it with ants, non-sentient rocks, plants, goblins, humans, elves, dwarves, horses, fish and beholders.
They're literally sex-obsessed geezers.
I sure hope that 4th edition dragons tons down the horny procreation-aspect that all dragons in 3rd edition suffer. If anything at all, other dragons should show contempt for dragons who do it with non-dragons, the same as we humans look down upon people who do it with goats or dogs.
Yuck, disgusting.
 

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Rule 34: If you can think of it there's porn of it on the net.

Rule 35: If there, in fact, no porn of it then there soon will be.
 

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