D&D (2024) Fighter (Playtest 7)

[Horwath]

Same reason DMs keep being weird about letting martials do even real-world achievable athletic tasks.

'uhh, a greatclub only weighs 10 pounds, it just seems weird to compare that to a giant's severed leg, man, I better stay on the safe side rather than let you get 2 extra average dmg'

You don't want to need DM permission for a core part of your (sub)class.

to be real, 10lb is too much for a melee weapon, even 2Handed, you would be so slow that anyone that has training would stab you 10 times with a dagger before you would make a full swing with it.

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

to be real, 10lb is too much for a melee weapon, even 2Handed, you would be so slow that anyone that has training would stab you 10 times with a dagger before you would make a full swing with it.

This is a game where a halfling the size of a toddler can have Str 20, so I think one should adjust one's assumptions accordingly.

 

[Asisreo]

Why wouldn’t a 2-handed improvised weapon be comparable to a greatclub?

I suppose it depends on the weapon and how stifling the DM wants to be. A table leg would be a greatclub but they might consider something like the bard's lute to not do that much damage.

Regardless, its still not the most powerful option in terms of damage for the fighter.

 

[Horwath]

This is a game where a halfling the size of a toddler can have Str 20, so I think one should adjust one's assumptions accordingly.

no matter, think now how fast would that halfling move a 3lb sword around.

 

[Horwath]

I suppose it depends on the weapon and how stifling the DM wants to be. A table leg would be a greatclub but they might consider something like the bard's lute to not do that much damage.

Regardless, its still not the most powerful option in terms of damage for the fighter.

table leg is closest to a baseball club, that is, a club, maybe quarterstaff for damage, so d6 max?

 

[Weiley31]

Same reason DMs keep being weird about letting martials do even real-world achievable athletic tasks.

'uhh, a greatclub only weighs 10 pounds, it just seems weird to compare that to a giant's severed leg, man, I better stay on the safe side rather than let you get 2 extra average dmg'

You don't want to need DM permission for a core part of your (sub)class.

to be real, 10lb is too much for a melee weapon, even 2Handed, you would be so slow that anyone that has training would stab you 10 times with a dagger before you would make a full swing with it.

no matter, think now how fast would that halfling move a 3lb sword around.

 

[Kobold Avenger]

So a Battlemaster uses Disarming Attack with the Push Weapon Mastery, that makes for a fun combination as the opponent's weapon is dropped and then they're pushed away 10 feet (but only 5 feet from their weapon). Even better if the battlemaster moves to the space where the weapon dropped and makes another push attack.

 

[Horwath]

telegraphing swings from last thursday.
I can order a coffee, drink it and still dodge that swing.

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

think now how fast would that halfling move a 3lb sword around.

Rules say, at the same speed as a sword twice their weight, so that's my whole frame of reference.

 

[Horwath]

Rules say, at the same speed as a sword twice their weight, so that's my whole frame of reference.

ok,
so faster sword is harder to dodge/block and 10lb weapon is so slow it should come with built in -5 attack modifier. or -10 even.