Find the Anime Challenge

[hong]

Conclusion: the people who say that things in D&D remind them of anime have clearly been watching too much anime.

 

[SlagMortar]

I don't actually care that much about the actual direction of the art of D&D, but I did enjoy reading this thread. Thanks for the constructive art history comments from many posters.

I'm compiling three pictures where there was at least some agreement on anime (or manga since Hussar said he uses the terms interchangably) influences:
In this post, Hussar agrees that this is in fact anime influenced.

This had several other posters agree it was manga influenced in their opinion. Also, Gundark claims to have evidence that the artist himself claims Japanese art influence.

This had several other posters comment that it was anime influenced in their opinion. My argument: If I had drawn this picture and then said to you, "Look at my cool picture! I've been drawing a lot of anime and wanted to do something different that was not in any way influenced by anime," would you say I had accomplished that?

Special thanks to frankthedm, firelance, and Gundark.

 

[Lackhand]

If I had drawn this picture and then said to you, "Look at my cool picture! I've been drawing a lot of anime and wanted to do something different that was not in any way influenced by anime," would you say I had accomplished that?

I wouldn't. But I also wouldn't claim that it *was* influenced by anime; I'm not sure that I see anime as a taint, one drop of which sullies a picture forevermore. There can be a middle ground where, sure, it reminds one of anime...
... or a wizard with Mirror Image up.

YMMV

 

[Hussar]

The problem is, the first one is probably closer to Hildebrant than anime. I did think it might have possibilities, but, I was corrected later.

The third one, I just don't see it. Why do you say this one looks anime inspired. I know it got posted a couple of times, but, I just don't see it. I've seen shots of Wolverine that look pretty much exactly like that. Is it because of the multiple images? Is that even a common element in anime?

 

[AllisterH]

The third one, I just don't see it. Why do you say this one looks anime inspired. I know it got posted a couple of times, but, I just don't see it. I've seen shots of Wolverine that look pretty much exactly like that. Is it because of the multiple images? Is that even a common element in anime?

The after-image effect?

In any shounen fight anime/manga, yeah, I'd say it is more common in manga to show this "speed kills" type of image. Dragonball made this image somewhat of a "staple" in that type of anime.

That said, the first time I ever saw an image like that was pre-Dragonball and was actually in the FLASH comic. It's just that in N.America, more people have read/seen a fight manga/anime like Dragonball than an American comic that uses this (Spiderman uses this a lot as well).

That's definitely what I'd call a 3E image as that type of move would be considered "Too cartoony/superhero" in 1E/2E.

 

[Fobok]

This had several other posters comment that it was anime influenced in their opinion.

Anybody who's read a Flash (or related) comic would think differently, I think.

For example, the cover of Impulse #81:

 

[wedgeski]

The Dracolich was included as one of the binder separators in the 2e Monstrous Manual.

Ah-ha! Yes, that was it. One of the many reasons why I seem to rate that product higher than most other people.

 

[Klaus]

I don't actually care that much about the actual direction of the art of D&D, but I did enjoy reading this thread. Thanks for the constructive art history comments from many posters.

I'm compiling three pictures where there was at least some agreement on anime (or manga since Hussar said he uses the terms interchangably) influences:
In this post, Hussar agrees that this is in fact anime influenced.

This had several other posters agree it was manga influenced in their opinion. Also, Gundark claims to have evidence that the artist himself claims Japanese art influence.

This had several other posters comment that it was anime influenced in their opinion. My argument: If I had drawn this picture and then said to you, "Look at my cool picture! I've been drawing a lot of anime and wanted to do something different that was not in any way influenced by anime," would you say I had accomplished that?

Special thanks to frankthedm, firelance, and Gundark.

The "several images in a single panel" technique was actually invented by Carmine Infantino to represent the superspeed of WWII superhero Johnny Quick: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Quick_(Johnny_Chambers)

 

[Gwathlas]

Ok, since I cannot give donuts, I have a new reward.

To anyone who can find three examples of anime art from any WOTC Dungeons and Dragons book, I will add the following to my sig for a year:

____________ is the greatest god(dess) of gaming and has proven me to be the biggest schmuck of the internet. They have defeated my anime challenge and I hereby declare that 3e art is fully inspired by anime.

How's that?

So, to anyone, please, let's see it.

If, however, after one month, no one can find three examples, then all who take the challenge shall SHUT THE **** UP about anime in 3e art forevermore.

So, are you hard enough?

Some of the art posted after your thread look very anime. But it the art is not anime enough it sounds like the new rules will japanime-naruto-ki-jitsu-the force/starwars and does not fit my ideas of Sword and Sorcery. All this talk of powers and book of nine sword being a preview says it all. Fighters will make flaming swords based on some martial power/stance. It just doesn't work for me. I started off with Conan and LOTR and enjoy my Fighter being a heroic sword swinger. Save your stances and powers for anime/orintal flavored games. Too bad they didn't put in an alternate combat section for those of us that perfer western mythos. Hey you greedy buggers at wotc there's an idea publish one set of rules for the anime-bubblegum set and and a second set of rules for those who perfer a western style S&S. Is this game D&D? Even less so they T&T or RuneQuest.

 

[Guild Goodknife]

Actually, the creatures with the wierd hair remind me of some 70's/80's manga characters. Can't find any pics at the moment, but does someone see what i mean?