Maxperson
Morkus from Orkus
Not to the person on welfare.
Then why screw them like that? Give them the $80 and teach them a skill to get a job that makes even more and move that person into being a productive member of society.
Not to the person on welfare.
Then why screw them like that? Give them the $80 and teach them a skill to get a job that makes even more and move that person into being a productive member of society.
But the Greek will not suddenly all want to move to a different country, so it's a purely theoretically thing. People don't uproot that easily. You need basically a shooting war in your country to see mass movement like that.Actually, that's a really good point.
Finland is part of the EU, and any EU citizen is entitled to move to any EU country and must be treated the same as a citizen in terms of employment rights, benefit payments, and so forth. Which means that, in theory at least, the entire population of Greece could move to Finland and would become eligible for the payment.
I don't know the exact details, but I suspect that you must have registered your primary residency in the country to get access to its entire welfare system. In some (if not all) countries this requires you to have a home (rental, owned, shared) and to be in the country a certain number of days.I would presume, though, that the lawmakers have considered this, so they'll probably put a residency requirement on it - that is, whether you're a citizen or not, you have to live in Finland for X years before you become eligible for the payment.
But the Greek will not suddenly all want to move to a different country, so it's a purely theoretically thing.
I don't know the exact details, but I suspect that you must have registered your primary residency in the country to get access to its entire welfare system. In some (if not all) countries this requires you to have a home (rental, owned, shared) and to be in the country a certain number of days.
Not to the person on welfare.
So what? It is a global problem, we all have to do our part. If as individuals we all say our acts do not matter, we'll solve nothing.
That isn't my point. Its that our life style is the problem. Giving more money to people might solve some problems, but it will not solve the more important one that can only be tackled by lowering our living standards and buying power.
Because giving them the 80 euros means not spending that same money on schools, or hospitals, or rehabilitating prisoners, or any number of other worthy causes.
The principle should be that people should be given welfare money according to their need. The need in this case is 10% lower for the second child than for the first, so it is right to at least consider whether that money can be better spent elsewhere.
Yeah, really. If losing 10% of your income is no big deal for anyone here, please, by all means, give it to me!
There aren't many causes more worthy than helping kids in need. Not schools, hospitals, or prisoners. Welfare already doesn't cover what is needed...
Who said anything about 10% of income? 10% of one kid......$80. That's no big deal.