Firefly bores me...

[mojo1701]

Hey, do you think there's money it? We could start by selling little bracelets and tee-shirts, then move on to whole big line of merch...

I call president and copyright holder!

"What Would Starfleet Do?" t-shirts aren't bad. I'm not much of a designer, but...

 

[Mallus]

I call president and copyright holder!

Darnit!

I'm not much of a designer, but...

I know plenty of good graphic designers.

But what we really need are good lawyers.

 

[Umbran]

Another thing that bothered me was the fake swearing. Either do it and bleep it or leave it alone. That just seemed fake and added for a little 'attitude' and it didn't take with me.

Hm. I'm just the opposite. I personally find modern colloquialisms to be dreadfully annoying in my far-future sci-fi. I can accept that the basic language needs to be the same for me to understand it, but I would prefer there be some coloring to make it clear that it isnt' exactly the same time.

What counts as a swear says a great deal about the culture. If it's a different time, it should be a different culture, and thus different foul language.

 

[Morrus]

I enjoyed Firefly immensely. Looking forward to the movie.

As for Westerns - I like a lot of the Clint Eastwood style Westerns (The Outlaw Josey Wales is fantastic!); I can't stand John Wayne style Westerns.

Sci-fi - not a fan of Star Trek. Loved Babylon 5 (well, until the final season when it got boring). Don't watch Farscape, Stargate, etc, but may well like 'em if I got round to giving them a fair chance.

The things I like most about Firefly are the down-to-earthness of it (none of that clinical hospital style Star Trek stuff; no aiming a magic ray at someone or something to solve a problem or heal an injury as they do in Star Trek all the time), and the dialogue, which has the same qualities as Buffy/Angel. Big surprise there!

 

[Ranger REG]

What's with the hate on squeaky-clean Star Trek? Are we that cynical that there is no such thing as utopia these days, or at least try to think about it?

Or they lack Rimmer?

 

[Thorin Stoutfoot]

Combine English & Mandarin speakers into a single culture & fast forward a couple of hundred years.

Do you think you will be able to understand what they are saying 90% of the time?

Try reading Olde English sometime.

That's the thing. The written Chinese on the show was completely, 100% correct! Someone did their job there, but apparently the speech experts did not bother to hold up their end. And then you view the commentary and realize that the makers of the show actually thought they were being true to spoken Mandarin (!!!), and you realize that somebody didn't quite earn their salary there.

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

I watched a couple of episodes of Firefly and had the "meh" reaction myself. I'd watch it if I was in front of the TV and didn't have anything better to do, but I would't plan my evening around it or anything like that. Maybe it's the Wheadon style dialog that seems to grate on my nerves so much like it does in Buffy and Angel and Astonishing X-Men. I never gave it much thought I just said, "meh" and moved on.

P.S. I love westerns.

 

[Thornir Alekeg]

I loved Firefly from the first time I saw it. Something about it captured me right away and it only got better as I watched more. I was disappointed when it was cancelled because I felt there was so much potential for incredible storytelling. I look forward to the movie, but hate the fact that I have to wait months for more and probably years (at best) before we get any more after that.

I don't feel any need to justify why I enjoy the show as much as I do, it is just the way I feel.

...but those of you who don't agree that this show was fantastic obviously are wrong

[aside] I had an literature teacher in High School who failed about half the class after we were given an assignment to write about the images and feelings evoked from a particular poem. If we did not see or feel the same things as the teacher, he marked our responses as "incorrect." [/aside]

 

[Teflon Billy]

I love Firefly. I think it is one of the best TV shows I have ever seen. I love the fact that every time they have the opportunity to use a cliche, they go the exact opposite direction.

The dialogue is amazing, the characters grow, and my god if it doesn't look and feel almost exaxtly like a game of Traveller.

And, spoiler here for Joe---->

Spoiler

Jayne (the Mercenary) in fact does sell them out

 

[jester47]

Firefly had that going against it, but also the irrational combination of space-age technology and Westerns.
Westerns are inherently low technology. Space travel is inherently high technology.
To combine the two is fundamentally flawed, in my opinion.

The way I see it, is the western corrolary actually does make sense. In westerns New York is high tech. Tombstone is not.

They were trying to do this with Firefly. The colony worlds are not high tech. The developed worlds are. The developed worlds look futureistic, the colony worlds are similar to westerns.

The problem with a lot of westerns is that they do not go into the big cities. If someone made a western that told it like it was, that is showed New York and then took you out to the west, you would have the same feeling of inherent flaws.

Take for example that Arthur Conan Doyle, Billy the Kidd, Many US civil war generals, Queen Victoria, Albert Einstein, Kaiser Willhelm II, Teddy Roosevelt, Geronimo, Nicolai Tesla, Doc Holiday, Thomas Edison, Pancho Villa and Wyatt Earp were all contemporaries. That is there were years where all these people were alive simultaneously. WWI is not that far removed from the Wild West and both are very close to Victorian England. Most people do not associate these as the same time period, even though they were.

Aaron.