Flanking Question

[CuriousBard]

Ok. A, B, and C are attacking X. A and B are obviously flanking and so therefore get the +2 on attack rolls as well as any use of abilities that can be used against flanked targets.

A
X C
B

Now assume C is a Rogue.

1). Does he get a +2 flanking bonus? (i.e. is the target considered flanked by him)
2). Does he get to employ his sneak attack?

 

[Cor Azer]

Ok. A, B, and C are attacking X. A and B are obviously flanking and so therefore get the +2 on attack rolls as well as any use of abilities that can be used against flanked targets.

A
X C
B

Now assume C is a Rogue.

1). Does he get a +2 flanking bonus? (i.e. is the target considered flanked by him)
2). Does he get to employ his sneak attack?

Without moving to replace A or B, no to both questions.

 

[hong]

C is not flanking, and thus doesn't get a sneak attack. Flanking is a property of the attacker(s), not the defender.

That said, it wouldn't be too unreasonable to have a house rule that makes being flanked a property of the defender. In this case C would get sneak attacks. It also makes rogues much more dangerous.

 

[IceBear]

Like hong said.

It's also not too difficult to do the following:

Since C is the rogue, let's assume he has the initiative over A and B.

C delays

A attacks with flanking from B.

B attacks, with flanking from A, and then takes a 5ft step like so:

_A_
BXC

Now, C attacks with flanking.

IceBear

 

[Christian]

And when A, B, and C are all rogues, this is know as 'The Deep Hurting Maneuver'.

 

[hong]

And when A, B, and C are all rogues, this is know as 'The Deep Hurting Maneuver'.

I would call it the "circle of death" myself. However, the REAL circle of death would involve arming A, B and C with PPCs.

 

[SpikeyFreak]

I would call it the "circle of death" myself. However, the REAL circle of death would involve arming A, B and C with PPCs.

I prefer gauss connons.

--MW Spikey

 

[IceBear]

Although I never played with the Clan muchkin equipment, I'd prefer Ultra AC-20s

IceBear

 

[Ristamar]

...I'd prefer Ultra AC-20s

IceBear

Amen to that, brother.

 

[Zhure]

hijack

This came up in last Monday's game:

A, B, C = Party melee characters, in that initiative order
E = Enemy, in this case, an unintelligent creature
o = empty square

ABo
oEo
ooC

A attacks, gains flank bonus, takes 5' step.

oBo
AEo
ooC

B, takes 5' step

Boo
AEo
ooC

B attacks, gaining flank bonus.
C attacks, gaining flank bonus, then takes 5' step.

Boo
AEC
ooo

... cycle repeats.

I was simply amazed at this degree of coordination. I still haven't come up with a good name for this maneuver... maybe the "Maypole of Death."

Greg