D&D 5E Fluff & Rule, Lore & Crunch. The Interplay of Class, System, and Color in D&D

[Vaalingrade]

I'd really prefer classes to be the mechanical chassis onto which you build the concept and lore. I don't want classes that limit themselves because of lore be this from rogues only getting SA with certain weapons or Paladins being required to be awful people by their code of conduct or monks turning into Lawful Outsider... things at cap level.

 

[Scribe]

is this going to end up with endless tangents about what each class should be? as I have ideas for monk so call me for that.

That's my hope. Gives me plenty of ideas to read.

 

[Mind of tempest]

I'd really prefer classes to be the mechanical chassis onto which you build the concept and lore. I don't want classes that limit themselves because of lore be this from rogues only getting SA with certain weapons or Paladins being required to be awful people by their code of conduct or monks turning into Lawful Outsider... things at cap level.

to restrictive lore would be a bad idea but something to give a basic perspective/view helps the new or unfamiliar by giving a place to stand/work from.

 

[Vaalingrade]

to restrictive lore would be a bad idea but something to give a basic perspective/view helps the new or unfamiliar by giving a place to stand/work from.

That's what example characters are for, IMO.

 

[Mind of tempest]

That's what example characters are for, IMO.

do you want to make on for each sub class? plus I tend to want at least a basic understanding of where magic kind of stuff comes from so I have a default to work with.

 

[Lakesidefantasy]

I voted #1.

However, everything is optional in Dungeons and Dragons.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

However, everything is optional in Dungeons and Dragons.

Even the ampersand, apparently.

 

[Vaalingrade]

do you want to make on for each sub class? plus I tend to want at least a basic understanding of where magic kind of stuff comes from so I have a default to work with.

I don't want subclasses at all!

My ideal class would be a broad outline with a lot of customizable addons to flesh out that outline, often with feat trees being how you pursue a theme or lore.

So I'd have a build for a Backstabber Rogue, a Skill Specialist Rogue, a Face Rogue, etc, but nothing locking you into any of them.
Actually, now that I think of it, just Rogues. Core One, baby!

 

[Mind of tempest]

I don't want subclasses at all!

My ideal class would be a broad outline with a lot of customizable addons to flesh out that outline, often with feat trees being how you pursue a theme or lore.

So I'd have a build for a Backstabber Rogue, a Skill Specialist Rogue, a Face Rogue, etc, but nothing locking you into any of them.
Actually, now that I think of it, just Rogues. Core One, baby!

so let me rephrase it do you want to make example characters for all of that customization systems?

 

[Remathilis]

I don't want subclasses at all!

My ideal class would be a broad outline with a lot of customizable addons to flesh out that outline, often with feat trees being how you pursue a theme or lore.

So I'd have a build for a Backstabber Rogue, a Skill Specialist Rogue, a Face Rogue, etc, but nothing locking you into any of them.
Actually, now that I think of it, just Rogues. Core One, baby!

You're sooo close. Just remove the broad classes and assign each feature a point value, followed by giving each player a pool of points to spend on buying them.