Absoulte Zero - there's some disagreement about the ECL for those two templates, so I'm just saying that I'm going to use them as having a +4 ECL.
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Absolute Zero
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but a half-celestial is only a +1ECL normally, how did it get that high?!?!?
The Challenge Rating is only a +1, the Effective Character Level is a +4. If the template is used on a monster or NPC that is swiftly killed or dealt with all the special abilities are blown through fairly quickly. But the immunities, spell-like abilities, possible wings, and other goodies are used by a PC over and over again. Thus they get more use out of them. So the ECL, which is used by PCs is worth far more than the CR, which is applied to monsters.
Absolute Zero
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I suppose, but if ya look into it half-celestial is, as you mentioned, a +4 ECl but a plus +1 CR, but a half-dragon is a +3 ECL and a +2CR if you look at them in 3.5, in which these templates havent changed much
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There's been a half-dragon in my gaming group and we all decided, after four months of playing, that he should have been a +4 ECL. Experience is my teacher. The DM rules the half-dragon to be a +4 ECL. 
Besides, you're getting some free hit points. 
Besides, you're getting some free hit points.
Absolute Zero
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oh, right extra HD, forgot about that. I guess it all sounds reasonable. I'll make a character and have it up soon, although i still havent decided on half-celestial or half-dragon yet.
Absolute Zero
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oh and could you explain the point buy? i had sumone explain it to me but im thinkin they told me all wrong.
Ok, take a look at the 3.0 DMG, page 20. It's all explained right there.
