Forgotten Realms: Rising from the Last Realms Shaking Event

gyor

Hero
Forgotten Realms: Rising from the Last Realms Shaking Event.

Okay the title is a tongue in cheek play on Eberron Rising from the Last War, but my point is a book like Eberron Rising From the Last War is the sort of book I've been asking for, but for the Forgotten Realms from WotC and given it's success I am hoping FR gets it's own version of a book with that function and size. Aka FRCG sort of book, but 5e style.
 

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen
What is it you hope to see from book like this that isn’t covered on SCAG?

Do you want something for all the nations not on the Sword Coast and how they’re coming out of the Sundering?
I think that would have been a cool thing to have done early in 5e’s life cycle. Back when people were still hyped to be going back to FR and reverting 4e’s changes to it. But now, after the Sundering adventure path failed to go anywhere and five years without any campaign setting books and only two first-party adventures set anywhere but FR, I think it would be a bad move.
 

gyor

Hero
What is it you hope to see from book like this that isn’t covered on SCAG?

Do you want something for all the nations not on the Sword Coast and how they’re coming out of the Sundering?
Okay ideally I'd want all the nations on Toril covered, a detailed map of Toril, a bit on Torils cosmology and Realmspace, and a detailed master list of religions/deities of FR, and some stuff on races of FR.

Realistically the nations of the Supercontinent (Faerun/Kara Tur/Zakhara) that is the main focus of FR, some Player stuff, master list of Gods/religions in chart form, and a Detailed Map of the main Supercontinent. Maybe much short mentions of Maztica.

Faerun alone has more nations then all the continents of Eberron, so doing the nations of Faerun, Kara Tur, and Zakara (which is really one diverse empire).
 
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Bitbrain

Adventurer
Okay ideally I'd want all the nations on Toril covered, a detailed map of Toril, a bit on Torils cosmology and Realmspace, and a detailed master list of religions/deities of FR, and some stuff on races of FR.

Realistically the nations of the Supercontinent (Faerun/Kara Tur/Zakhara) that is the main focus of FR, some Player stuff, master list of Gods/religions in chart form, and a Detailed Map of the main Supercontinent. Maybe much short mentions of Maztica.

Faerun alone has more nations then all the continents of Eberron, so doing the nations of Faerun, Kara Tur, and Zakara (which is really one diverse empire).
I think I read something on Sageadvice.eu where Ed Greenwood said there would be a 600 page sourcebook for the Forgotten Realms coming to the DM’s Guild sometime next year.
I just can’t remember its title.

EDIT
Found it.
 

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
As long as it reprints with Errata to make them work better the Genasi, gives us a Swordmage class, and maybe some Beastfolk from the east, I’m into it.
 

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
I feel like such a book would be a great place to explore the design space of feats with level gates, and feats that are an optional “power creep”.

Stuff like, Chosen feats, Epic Destiny feats, Prestige Feats, etc.

So, if you’re gonna allow someone to play a chosen, then everyone at the table can take this class of feat, which are balanced amongst themselves, but not balanced with respect to PHB feats. They would fill the roll of 4e themes/Paragon paths/epic destinies, or earlier prestige classes, etc.

Epic Feats, particularly, would be a way to make the heroes Epic regardless of their level, allowing the play of heroes similar to Elminster and Erebus Cale and other Chosen within the leveling sweet spot.
 

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen
Which one is that?
Murder in Baldur’s Gate, Legacy of the Crystal Shard, Dreams of the Red Wizards: Scourge of the Sword Coast, and Dreams of the Red Wizards: Dead in Thay. They were system-agnostic adventures that came out towards the end of the D&D Next Playtest, and supposedly groups who played it were going to be able to report the outcomes of their play throughs, which would allegedly have an impact on the Sundering metaplot. Nothing really came of that though.
 

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Murder in Baldur’s Gate, Legacy of the Crystal Shard, Dreams of the Red Wizards: Scourge of the Sword Coast, and Dreams of the Red Wizards: Dead in Thay. They were system-agnostic adventures that came out towards the end of the D&D Next Playtest, and supposedly groups who played it were going to be able to report the outcomes of their play throughs, which would allegedly have an impact on the Sundering metaplot. Nothing really came of that though.
I think they probably got feedback that stopped them from pursuing that whole thing. People just wanted to play in their vision of the Realms and get on with it, I suspect.

But I’m definitely never gonna play a private game that uses the 5e Reams as anything but a grab bag of ideas for continuing to develop my mostly4e era based Realms. 🤷‍♂️
 

gyor

Hero
I think I read something on Sageadvice.eu where Ed Greenwood said there would be a 600 page sourcebook for the Forgotten Realms coming to the DM’s Guild sometime next year.
I just can’t remember its title.

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Found it.
I looked into it. It's not official, it's not 5e, and it won't be published on dmsguild. So its not what I am looking for. Thanks anyways.
 

pukunui

Adventurer
Nothing really came of that though.
That’s not entirely true. They just didn’t make a big fanfare about it.

The majority of groups that played Crystal Shard managed to stop Vaelish from usurping Duvessa Shane in Bryn Shander, which is why she’s still mayor in SKT and he is mentioned as being back in Luskan in SCAG.

The majority of groups that played through Baldur’s Gate wound up with Ravengard as Grand Duke, which is why he’s been in that position in multiple 5e adventures since then.

And so on.
 
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Charlaquin

Goblin Queen
That’s not entirely true. They just didn’t make a big fanfare about it.

The majority of groups that played Crystal Shard managed to stop Vaelish from usurping Duvessa Shane in Bryn Shander, which is why she’s still mayor in SKT and he is mentioned as being back in Luskan in SCAG.

The majority of groups that played through Baldur’s Gate wound up with Ravengard as Grand Duke, which is why he’s been in that position in multiple 5e adventures since then.

And so on.
That’s a good point. I guess I just expected, like... something more than that out of it? Like the way they advertised it made it sound like we’d be shaping the story in a major way, not just deciding the fates of a few NPCs. It didn’t help that the Sundering itself wasn’t really explored in gameplay. They made it sound like it was going to be a major event that would play a significant role in the lives of everyone in Toril. But instead it was like “ok, so the Sundering happened, everything is back to the way it was before 4e, no more questions kthnxbye.”
 

doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
That’s a good point. I guess I just expected, like... something more than that out of it? Like the way they advertised it made it sound like we’d be shaping the story in a major way, not just deciding the fates of a few NPCs. It didn’t help that the Sundering itself wasn’t really explored in gameplay. They made it sound like it was going to be a major event that would play a significant role in the lives of everyone in Toril. But instead it was like “ok, so the Sundering happened, everything is back to the way it was before 4e, no more questions kthnxbye.”
Yeup.

Same mistake they made by not releasing any adventures set during the Spellplague in 4e.

Like, make a new status quo if you must, but help me run a game where the players shape or at least witness how it shakes out!
 

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen
Yeah, fair enough. It was definitely a missed opportunity in that respect.

That said, Scourge of the Sword Coast has some of the coolest adventure locations ever published in it. Definitely worth checking out just for those!
The Sundering adventures were some of the best adventures I’ve ever read! That’s part of why I was so let down that the whole Sundering thing fizzled out. Actually, Tyranny if Dragons seemed like it was continuing the Sundering Metaplot, and I was pretty hyped for that. Unfortunately the quality was not up to that of the Sundering adventures.
 

Salthorae

Imperial Mountain Dew Taster
You say that like it's a bad thing, but I would love an official, canon 5e FR encyclopia.
I guess I don't know what you want for FR that hasn't been published already from 2e through the current published stuff? They have all those things from previous editions.

Do you just need/want everything updated to the current year?

Personally I'm stoked for anything coming from the Eric Boyd and Krashos, they're about as Realms Canon as you can get outside of Greenwood himself.

 

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