D&D 5E Forgotten Realms: Rising from the Last Realms Shaking Event

[gyor]

You need to find a better quality of things that infuriate you.

He has good reason to be infuriated.

 

[Urriak Uruk]

No the Forgotten Realms is the most popular setting, the Swordcoast is not a setting, it's a region of a setting, and the rest of Faerun is as popular or more then the Swordcoast.

And the SCAG has been out for a lot longer then Guildmasters Guide to Ravnica, Ravnica is fresher, and the SCAG one of the least interesting part of the Faerun (still interesting, but over done).

The difference between the Sword Coast and greater FR matters. You want a book like Rising from the Last War for all of FR. But Rising from the Last War has only 8 pages of content for areas beyond Khorvaire, Eberron's most popular area.

You already have a book for the Sword Coast, FR's most popular area. So you already have 98% of the book you want, what you're complaining about is missing the 8 pages of content detailing other areas.

 

[gyor]

This attitude infuriates me. The type of casual fan you describe infuriates me. It reminds me of somebody describing the virtues of Budweiser while repeatedly refusing offers to go get a beer that is of even slightly better quality. That guy would probably like Granville Island if he knew what it was, but he's refusing to find out. Likewise, these "casuals" lack of interest for new horizons makes the game stale and bland. Like Budweiser. Stop drinking garbage macrobrews.

To change tracks for a few moments, Eberron: Rising from the Last War, the third setting guide for 5e (or fourth, depending on how you want to view the Wayfinder's Guide, which is a total fracas in and of itself and my heart goes out to Keith Baker for making it in the first place despite the controversy it would inevitably cause), just officially released today, and I am loving it. There's a lot of detailed material, both fluff and mechanics, that it offers for my use, and the Gazetteer of Khorvaire, detailing all the major nations of the continent is nothing to scoff at either. And yet, there's a twinge of pain, as I know that future support for Eberron from WotC is unlikely; there won't be any books detailing Xen'drik and Sarlona, and even the Khorvaire Gazetteer misses a few things, and the book yet again zeroes in on Sharn, City of Towers that is in need of exploring for the 13th time apparently. Baker's releasing Exploring Eberron in December, which will fill in some of the unexplored corners of the setting, which is awesome. And Eberron has the advantage of a lack of an advancing metaplot, which means all the sources from 3.5e and 4e are still relevant, just in need of a mechanics conversion.

Not so for Forgotten Realms, at least on the second point; on the first, I'm not sure where to look for community engagement. There's this Crown of Eaerlann thing coming out some time soon, which is... something? Anyways, there is even less support for players and DMs wanting to go beyond the Sword Coast, Mulmaster, the Heartlands, and Chult in 5e, and trawling through the wikia and through old books isn't even taht helpful as all the information in there is in-setting outdated by 13 to 135 years and two cataclysms that rewrote the face of the continent. I want to run a game in Thesk. Maybe go east into Yaïmunnahar, or even further and into Tabot. Ok, where do I even start? And I can't just go and open the equivalent of "Secrets of Sarlona" for Forgotten Realms because all the info in there is outdated in-setting!

Finally someone smart enough in this thread who actual gets it!

For fans of FR, which more then the Swordcoast for goodness sakes, things have changed so much we need more details then the SCAG provides! And the Novels line back.

 

[lowkey13]

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[reelo]

... we need more details then the SCAG provides!

Make it up. Make the Realms yours.

 

[gyor]

The difference between the Sword Coast and greater FR matters. You want a book like Rising from the Last War for all of FR. But Rising from the Last War has only 8 pages of content for areas beyond Khorvaire, Eberron's most popular area.

You already have a book for the Sword Coast, FR's most popular area. So you already have 98% of the book you want, what you're complaining about is missing the 8 pages of content detailing other areas.

The FR has a lot of popular areas, tons so no the Swordcoast is not 98% of the book I want. It underwent relatively few changes compared to the south and east of the realms. It's maybe 4% at most because it needs little information to begin with.

For example Al Qadim was supposed to be a limited run, but it was so popular when it was published that they kept on releasing books for it years after it was supposed to be done. The Old Empires region got maginuked hard in 4e, which lead to such a backlash, that WotC decided to bring back everything they'd blown up during the Spellplague in that region, rebuilding Mulhorand, the lost half of Chessenta, and Unther, and their Gods. The same is true of Halruaa, Luiren, Lantan, Nimbral, Chult, human Calimshan, ect..., but kept the most popular stuff from 4e like Tymanther, Dambrath, Warlock Knights of Vaasa, Eltguard, ect...

They wouldn't have bothered to do that if all anyone cared about was the Swordcoast. They won't have even bothered to visit Chult.

 

[gyor]

Make it up. Make the Realms yours.

Part of the appeal is that it is a living, evolving shared setting, if I just wanted to make up my own Forgotten Realms, I wouldn't buy anything from WotC.

 

[gyor]

If casual fans of things infuriate you, I'd hate to see how you feel about people that are indifferent.

Or .... actively dislike.

Personally, I have always felt that there are two things in life I can't abide:

People that are intolerant of other's TTRPG choices, and Paladins.

Not casual fans in general, narcissistic casual fans that don't want the rest of the setting detailed for the rest of us, because they are happy with the Swordcoast, so screw FR fans. That does not describe most casual gamers, a tiny minority in fact I believe, but an infuriating group.

And I only care about others TTRPG choices when they actively try and take away mine and others. Hussar who wants to deny others choice, I want to increase it.

And I love 5e Paladin, best Paladins ever. Especially Gnomish Paladin's with Rapiers, because every 5e book should have Gnomish Paladins dual wielding rapiers.

 

[Urriak Uruk]

The FR has a lot of popular areas, tons so no the Swordcoast is not 98% of the book I want. It underwent relatively few changes compared to the south and east of the realms. It's maybe 4% at most because it needs little information to begin with.

For example Al Qadim was supposed to be a limited run, but it was so popular when it was published that they kept on releasing books for it years after it was supposed to be done. The Old Empires region got maginuked hard in 4e, which lead to such a backlash, that WotC decided to bring back everything they'd blown up during the Spellplague in that region, rebuilding Mulhorand, the lost half of Chessenta, and Unther, and their Gods. The same is true of Halruaa, Luiren, Lantan, Nimbral, Chult, human Calimshan, ect..., but kept the most popular stuff from 4e like Tymanther, Dambrath, Warlock Knights of Vaasa, Eltguard, ect...

They wouldn't have bothered to do that if all anyone cared about was the Swordcoast. They won't have even bothered to visit Chult.

Look mate, this is your original post;

Forgotten Realms: Rising from the Last Realms Shaking Event.
Okay the title is a tongue in cheek play on Eberron Rising from the Last War, but my point is a book like Eberron Rising From the Last War is the sort of book I've been asking for, but for the Forgotten Realms from WotC and given it's success I am hoping FR gets it's own version of a book with that function and size. Aka FRCG sort of book, but 5e style.

You've got almost all of that already, because most of this Eberron book is Khorvaire. There are only 8 pages beyond that continent. You've gotten your Sword Coast book, so you're only missing your 8 pages.

Now, if you want a book detailing areas beyond the Sword Coast, fine. But that's not a FR version of Rising from the Last War, that would be a second setting book for FR.

 

[Parmandur]

The thing is is that the Dalelands change very little from edition to edition. The Spellplague and Sundering barely effected them, there are regions in far, far more need of such attention then the Dalelands. I mean what was mentioned in the SCAG is actual more then enough honestly for such a minor relatively unchanging region. And compared to other regions it's not just generic, it's actually dull now that Elminister doesn't live there anymore.

If they are going to do a zoom in on a particular region, I would suggest Chessenta instead. It's exotic, without being too far out. It's FRs Greece thematically (Fantasy Greece is always popular) it's also the cultural meeting point between the Old Empires Religion and Faerun and Demihuman human religions. It's familiar enough to folks, without being too exotic.

But again, the down to Earth generic familiarity is an advantage for what such a product would be for.