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ehren37 said:
Largely because the realms have too many damn gods. Tyr, Torm and Helm could easily be lumped intot he same guy. Mystra is the goddess of magic and Azuth is the god of... uh... guys who use magic? The Al-Quadim campaign book poked fun at how sad it was that not only did the gods need to have jobs doing mundane tasks, but they even had to compete with one another over the same job.

I don't mind offing one of Helm and Tyr, but I do think it's lame that it's Helm who got the chop, when he's an interesting, actual FR god, unique to the FR with an unusually "actually LN" personality (instead of the usual "listed as LN, acts either LG or CN, depending on how he feels" LN), and kind of appropriately twerpy.

Whereas Tyr was a mind-blowingly boring interloper from the Norse pantheon who was presumably only there because someone demanded him as their character's god a couple of decades ago in one of Ed Greenwood's campaigns. Unless I'm confusing him, which is possible, as he always bored me to sleep.

I like Torm though, I hope they leave him alone.

On the WotC FR boards someone suggested Elminster could replace Azuth as "assistant god of magic", if that position stays, which seemed like a nice idea. Azuth was always as dull as ditchwater. In fact the guy saying that came up with a disturbingly likely sequence of events which has me semi-convinced the 10-year-leap is actually in, and this 100-year leap deal really is Drizzt's "dream sequence", which would be kind of sad.
 

Ruin Explorer said:
I don't mind offing one of Helm and Tyr, but I do think it's lame that it's Helm who got the chop, when he's an interesting, actual FR god, unique to the FR with an unusually "actually LN" personality (instead of the usual "listed as LN, acts either LG or CN, depending on how he feels" LN), and kind of appropriately twerpy.
Actually, he's just a renamed Heimdall.

One of Ed's early Dragon articles* was about putting together a pantheon, focusing on mixing and matching real world mythologies to come up with your own. The example is the FR pantheon (before TSR decided to publish FR, I believe).

Whereas Tyr was a mind-blowingly boring interloper from the Norse pantheon who was presumably only there because someone demanded him as their character's god a couple of decades ago in one of Ed Greenwood's campaigns.

See above.

* Dragon #54, October '81
 
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Yeah, this is obviously Time of Troubles 2.0 to explain the changes in how magic works.

I remember Felon's thread and definitely think that the God/dess of Maaaaaaaagic needs to be some flavor of Neutral.

I think setting things just as their go totally kablooey is great for DMs. You can either stick with canon (which I'm sure will sort things out in novels and maybe a module or two) or use it as a springboard for all sorts of other stuff.

Plus, doesn't Mystra dying, even for a brief period, open up all sorts of opportunities for mischief? I bet there's a whole lot of good campaigns that could spin out of that and its repercussions.
 



Something that would be nice to come out of this, to me, would be for the gods to become distant from affairs in the setting. For them to not have "As Toril Turns" soap opera episodes when their issues with each other keep having rapid outcomes on the setting. For the novel writers to be forbidden from having FR deities show up in their books as characters.

But that's me. ;)
 

Eric Anondson said:
Something that would be nice to come out of this, to me, would be for the gods to become distant from affairs in the setting. For them to not have "As Toril Turns" soap opera episodes when their issues with each other keep having rapid outcomes on the setting. For the novel writers to be forbidden from having FR deities show up in their books as characters.

But that's me. ;)

But that's one of the things that defines Forgotten Realms, the deities interacting so directly with the world.
 

Eric Anondson said:
Something that would be nice to come out of this, to me, would be for the gods to become distant from affairs in the setting. For them to not have "As Toril Turns" soap opera episodes when their issues with each other keep having rapid outcomes on the setting. For the novel writers to be forbidden from having FR deities show up in their books as characters.

But that's me. ;)
I bet one of the existent novel characters becomes the new god/dess of magic. ;)
 


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