FR: What's up with Lolth? (Spoilers, please)

[ElMorte]

I had an theory myself. In the Drizzzt novels, Lloth mentioned to Errtu after the war with Mithril Hall that she will tkae an "out-time".

I think she wanted to know what happens when she is gone.

Well chaos as we know and thats teh way she likes it...

 

[Mystery Man]

That's doesn't need verification, as it's patently untrue.

Anything that any of the design team put out personally is non-canon. It has to actually be on the WotC's website, in one of their books, or in some other approved material (e.g. Dungeon or Dragon) to be canon. Stuff he posts on a website or stuff he's quoted on isn't even close to being canon.

Um.....yeah, it is. How could you be so misinformed about something that is so correct?

 

[Krafus]

To those who haver read the series so far (I've only read up to book 3 because I can't afford hardcovers), how are Pharaun and Danifae at the end of book 5? I mean, Pharaun and Quenthel have been hating each other, and in this thread people say Quenthel has practically become a Chosen, so she might decide to squash Pharaun, especially if she still has Jeggred to back her up. And Quenthel might view Danifae as a potential rival.

Oh, and about Salvatore's involvement in the series... I think it's mainly because WotC wanted his name on the books' covers. At least this time he does seem to have more involvement than in Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark (that was a pure marketing ploy - Salvatore had nothing to do with that book).

 

[IronWolf]

That's doesn't need verification, as it's patently untrue.

Anything that any of the design team put out personally is non-canon. It has to actually be on the WotC's website, in one of their books, or in some other approved material (e.g. Dungeon or Dragon) to be canon. Stuff he posts on a website or stuff he's quoted on isn't even close to being canon.

You would be wrong here. As Kuje already mentioned a page ahead of this one and as MysteryMan has reiterated:

Quote Kuje
"And there is clearly 5 or more places in that file where Ed says, "My words are canon unless WOTC or TSR changes them with an in world explaination. It's in my contract with TSR/WOTC."

...refering the to the question and answer document Kuje has compiled of Ed's answers to many questions.

It is widely known by many Forgotten Realm's aficionados, Ed's words are canon. Ed even alludes to this being in his contract on many occasions. So while what you have said may be true for the other designers on the FR team, Ed is the exception.

 

[Alzrius]

It is widely known by many Forgotten Realm's aficionados, Ed's words are canon. Ed even alludes to this being in his contract on many occasions. So while what you have said may be true for the other designers on the FR team, Ed is the exception.

It seems that the exception has an exception here. His words about other Chosen not being "really Chosen" are obviously incorrect, as many products have stated multiple times over. Hence, he's wrong on this count.

 

[Desdichado]

It is widely known by many Forgotten Realm's aficionados, Ed's words are canon. Ed even alludes to this being in his contract on many occasions. So while what you have said may be true for the other designers on the FR team, Ed is the exception.

That's not a very useful definition of canon, though. I don't see what difference it makes in this case to be canonical or not, since WotC can change his "canon" at any time by publishing somethat that contradicts it. It's simply a nod to Ed by the old TSR team that he's the guy that started the FR off.

 

[Mystery Man]

. It's simply a nod to Ed by the old TSR team that he's the guy that started the FR off.

No, not really. I'm pretty sure its trumped only if there's a conflict. Mostly there isn't so it becomes a part of the Realms. Others who know better may be able to define that better than me.

 

[Desdichado]

But how is that different than what I said? It makes Ed's comments online, or in person, a very low grade of canon. It's a bit like the Star Wars "Expanded Universe" or whatever it's called exactly. It's considered "canon"... until George Lucas makes another movie that invalidates portions of it.

And as an aside, I've not noticed anyone talk about the FR "cannon" which makes me proud. That word is mispelled an awful dang lot.

 

[Mystery Man]

But how is that different than what I said? It makes Ed's comments online, or in person, a very low grade of canon.

No it makes it the same grade of canon as everything else.

 

[Cthulhudrew]

I had an theory myself. In the Drizzzt novels, Lloth mentioned to Errtu after the war with Mithril Hall that she will tkae an "out-time".

Lolth has an exchange with Errtu in "Siege of Darkness" (the prologue), where she mentions that she will be swept up in events, but she was referring to the Time of Troubles. She specifically makes reference to "A time when the gods will pay for their foolishness."

Now, how she knew about the Time of Troubles before it even happened, is beyond me. She doesn't have Prophecy as part of her portfolio...