Gaming W/Jemal: Legends (3.5e d&D) *Recruitment Closed*
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Jemal
Adventurer
To clarify :
unslotted = no
Multiple things on one slot = yes, BUT: it is then a custom item and requires a crafter to make for you.
Spending XP to have a crafter make an item for you : Yes, BUT: You must have a background connection with the PC making the item for you, to explain why they would do that, and they(the player) must agree to do it.
Rathan - I just am not fond of the extraneous ac/save bonuses from the DMG chart. (IE Sacred&luck) I understand there are ways to get these bonuses but I don't want them just being pulled off a chart for a cheap/easy buff.
(In fact I dislike that chart for just about everything)
Allright, Time to deconstruct.. er I mean criticize..er I mean 'go over' characters put forth so far.
This could take a few minutes..
EDIT
RE: War Troll - I'm going to dissalow shapechanging into anything outside of the core unless your character has a chance to meet it in game, to prevent me from having to say things like "That creature doesn't exist in this world" or "wait you can do what now?".
unslotted = no
Multiple things on one slot = yes, BUT: it is then a custom item and requires a crafter to make for you.
Spending XP to have a crafter make an item for you : Yes, BUT: You must have a background connection with the PC making the item for you, to explain why they would do that, and they(the player) must agree to do it.
Rathan - I just am not fond of the extraneous ac/save bonuses from the DMG chart. (IE Sacred&luck) I understand there are ways to get these bonuses but I don't want them just being pulled off a chart for a cheap/easy buff.
(In fact I dislike that chart for just about everything)
Allright, Time to deconstruct.. er I mean criticize..er I mean 'go over' characters put forth so far.
This could take a few minutes..
EDIT
RE: War Troll - I'm going to dissalow shapechanging into anything outside of the core unless your character has a chance to meet it in game, to prevent me from having to say things like "That creature doesn't exist in this world" or "wait you can do what now?".
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Rathan
First Post
ok.. I guess I shouldn't just ask one person so I'll put the call out to anyone willing to help me out.... is anyone who is able to craft items willing to link backgrounds with me so I can get these custom items done for me.... list is as follows and I would be spending my pool of xp to get them crafted I'd assume....
Amulet of Health +6 and Nat Armor +5 (104,000)
Bracers of Resistance +5 (37,500) [As Cloak of Resistance]
Mantle of Spell Resistance 30 (180,000)
Amulet of Health +6 and Nat Armor +5 (104,000)
Bracers of Resistance +5 (37,500) [As Cloak of Resistance]
Mantle of Spell Resistance 30 (180,000)
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Salthorae
Imperial Mountain Dew Taster
I might be willing to have at one point in the past hired a tough to keep my body safe while traveling... and have crafted some items for my friend. Assuming my friends xp and gold are paying for the items of course.
We only have 10k XP to work with and as I calculate the items above cost the following in XP:
Amulet of Health/NA: 4160 XP
Bracers of Resistance: 1500 XP
Mantle of SR: 7200 XP
Total needed: 12860 XP
The 1/25 is off the full base price, not the 1/2 gp price of materials needed to craft the item. So a 25gp market value scroll (if there are any) would cost 1 XP, not .5 XP for the cost to create the scroll (12.5gp)
If it is different from that Jemal, please let me know as that affects my crafting/purchases as well!
I don't have the necessary reserves to give you the balance, but I can have crafted any of them that don't add up to over 10k XP for you...
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Jemal
Adventurer
Character Reviews
Flesh
Interesting. Well, still doesn't beat my record for # of classes in a single non-epic character *L* It's still single digit.
You don't have equipment listed.
How does your BAB become 20?
How do you cast heroics?
Rorona
Hmm, A Berserker with a +11 will save doesn't seem too friendly
Your Str has a +2 lvl bonus listed but it looks like thats where you put all 5 of your levels (You have 16 base + 5 book + 6 enhancement=27. +2 lvl would only be 29, but the +5 would make it equal the 32 you have listed) Probly just a typo.
I'm not seeing where you get 10 feats from. I count 7 base + 2 bonus fighter. Perhaps you accidentally counted the human bonus?
I count you should have 109 skill points.
Rpgramen
As I just clarified, Unslotted's are no-go.
As to the rest of it :
Why do you only have 19 hd?
Could you seperate your gear so that it's not a giant block of text, to make it more easily readable?
Please indicate where your lvl points were allocated, and how your stats got to their current #'s. (points, enhancement, racial,etc)
same with saves & Skills.
Salthorae
I haven't got access to complete champion, you'll have to tell me what anything from it does.
Abilities, Skills, Saves need to be explained (Base/ranks/ability mod/item bonus etc)
You can't take extra turning for two loremaster secrets. Loremaster specify's the same secret can't be taken multiple times (Thus you can only get one feat from it)
Just to clarify, you bought a luck blade with 0 wishes (22,000gp cost), correct? (I presume for the +1 luck bonus and good fortune).
For the 9th lvl domain spell of Trickery I'll give Shades instead of time stop.
What are your usually memorized/prayed for spells? I understand they can be changed daily, but spell selection gives me a big idea of how your character will play
Ethandrew
Your dex should be (10 Points[16] + 2 Racial + 4 Manual + 2 Level Adjustment + 6 Gloves of Dexterity=30), you have 32 listed.
I notice you didn't take Improved Toughness till lvl 20. Not sure if that just 'happened' but I figured I'd point out just in case that it DOES scale with lvl, so the lvl you take it at doesn't matter, it gives you hp = your lvl regardless, and improves when you gain a lvl.
Your Cold Iron sword should cost 4,000 more (Cold iron adds 2000 for EACH Enhancement placed on it, not just for enchanting it. therefore the holy costs +2000, the Flaming costs +2000, and the +5 costs +2000, plus the base 128,000 for a +8 item = 134,000)
How do you speak Sylvan with a 10 int? Elves only get common and elven for free.
Voidrazor
Your stat breakdown at the bottom of the page adds up to 38 stat points, it's supposed to be 36. And your STR doesn't account for Inherent or Enhancement in the primary block at the top of the sheet (It lists only 20, but your breakdown at the bottom adds to 31).
Also, I'm not sure if you allready knew this or not, but the bear shapers ability functions as polymorph, meaning all your gear would merge whenever you use it. (It's also an enhancement bonus which wouldn't stack with items anyways.) Your Inherent bonuses would still apply, however.
I also notice you have one open feat slot - I highly suggest extra rage if you plan on using your bear/warshaper abilities often.
Shayuri
I'd like a breakdown for ability scores and skills.
Is the ? beside Leadership because you're not sure if you want to take it or not sure if I'm ok with it? (cuz i am)
Warlocks must be either chaotic or evil. this means Chaotic since evil's N/A
Could you include how much XP was spent on which crafted items? (Specifically the rod of magical precision, death warded chain shirt, ring of super duper defense, mask of lies, and greater chasuble of fel power are all custom and must be crafted either by you or another pc.
RE: Defending - I only allow defending weapons to grant their bonus if you're actually wielding them as a weapon, not just carrying/holding them.
Onlythestrong
I'd like a breakdown for ability scores (See others)
I highly suggest doing something to upgrade your damage output, perhaps power attack?
Well, That's my thoughts on the characters so far.
Did I miss anybody?
Flesh
Interesting. Well, still doesn't beat my record for # of classes in a single non-epic character *L* It's still single digit.
You don't have equipment listed.
How does your BAB become 20?
How do you cast heroics?
As far as I can see it should be 2d6+16+weapon enchantment, and +8d6 sneak attack. Where does the power attack come in?
Rorona
Hmm, A Berserker with a +11 will save doesn't seem too friendly
Your Str has a +2 lvl bonus listed but it looks like thats where you put all 5 of your levels (You have 16 base + 5 book + 6 enhancement=27. +2 lvl would only be 29, but the +5 would make it equal the 32 you have listed) Probly just a typo.
I'm not seeing where you get 10 feats from. I count 7 base + 2 bonus fighter. Perhaps you accidentally counted the human bonus?
I count you should have 109 skill points.
Rpgramen
As I just clarified, Unslotted's are no-go.
As to the rest of it :
Why do you only have 19 hd?
Could you seperate your gear so that it's not a giant block of text, to make it more easily readable?
Please indicate where your lvl points were allocated, and how your stats got to their current #'s. (points, enhancement, racial,etc)
same with saves & Skills.
Salthorae
I haven't got access to complete champion, you'll have to tell me what anything from it does.
Abilities, Skills, Saves need to be explained (Base/ranks/ability mod/item bonus etc)
You can't take extra turning for two loremaster secrets. Loremaster specify's the same secret can't be taken multiple times (Thus you can only get one feat from it)
Just to clarify, you bought a luck blade with 0 wishes (22,000gp cost), correct? (I presume for the +1 luck bonus and good fortune).
For the 9th lvl domain spell of Trickery I'll give Shades instead of time stop.
What are your usually memorized/prayed for spells? I understand they can be changed daily, but spell selection gives me a big idea of how your character will play
Ethandrew
Your dex should be (10 Points[16] + 2 Racial + 4 Manual + 2 Level Adjustment + 6 Gloves of Dexterity=30), you have 32 listed.
I notice you didn't take Improved Toughness till lvl 20. Not sure if that just 'happened' but I figured I'd point out just in case that it DOES scale with lvl, so the lvl you take it at doesn't matter, it gives you hp = your lvl regardless, and improves when you gain a lvl.
Your Cold Iron sword should cost 4,000 more (Cold iron adds 2000 for EACH Enhancement placed on it, not just for enchanting it. therefore the holy costs +2000, the Flaming costs +2000, and the +5 costs +2000, plus the base 128,000 for a +8 item = 134,000)
How do you speak Sylvan with a 10 int? Elves only get common and elven for free.
Voidrazor
Your stat breakdown at the bottom of the page adds up to 38 stat points, it's supposed to be 36. And your STR doesn't account for Inherent or Enhancement in the primary block at the top of the sheet (It lists only 20, but your breakdown at the bottom adds to 31).
Also, I'm not sure if you allready knew this or not, but the bear shapers ability functions as polymorph, meaning all your gear would merge whenever you use it. (It's also an enhancement bonus which wouldn't stack with items anyways.) Your Inherent bonuses would still apply, however.
I also notice you have one open feat slot - I highly suggest extra rage if you plan on using your bear/warshaper abilities often.
Shayuri
I'd like a breakdown for ability scores and skills.
Is the ? beside Leadership because you're not sure if you want to take it or not sure if I'm ok with it? (cuz i am)
Warlocks must be either chaotic or evil. this means Chaotic since evil's N/A
Could you include how much XP was spent on which crafted items? (Specifically the rod of magical precision, death warded chain shirt, ring of super duper defense, mask of lies, and greater chasuble of fel power are all custom and must be crafted either by you or another pc.
RE: Defending - I only allow defending weapons to grant their bonus if you're actually wielding them as a weapon, not just carrying/holding them.
Onlythestrong
I'd like a breakdown for ability scores (See others)
I highly suggest doing something to upgrade your damage output, perhaps power attack?
Well, That's my thoughts on the characters so far.
Did I miss anybody?
I'd like a breakdown for ability scores and skills.
I'll include that on the final draft, which will be posted soon.
Is the ? beside Leadership because you're not sure if you want to take it or not sure if I'm ok with it? (cuz i am)
I was unsure at first, but now I have finalized it. Tatterdemalion is shaping up to be a pretty cool cohort.
Warlocks must be either chaotic or evil. this means Chaotic since evil's N/A
Gleep. Ok. Sorry, I'm so used to that being house ruled that I forgot about it. Chaotic Good will work for the concept though.
Could you include how much XP was spent on which crafted items? (Specifically the rod of magical precision, death warded chain shirt, ring of super duper defense, mask of lies, and greater chasuble of fel power are all custom and must be crafted either by you or another pc.)
Hmm! The ring too, eh? I thought as long as I was combining core items, I wouldn't need to craft it. Okay, back to the drawing board then.
RE: Defending - I only allow defending weapons to grant their bonus if you're actually wielding them as a weapon, not just carrying/holding them.
So you only get the bonus if you make an attack with it? If I have it in my off hand, and my rod in my on hand, and am shooting EB's with the rod, does the dagger count as being 'wielded as a weapon?' I could make AoO's with it...albeit at a penalty. Or attack (at penalty) in melee if someone came over to me.
Once I get the inventory mess straightened out, I'll repost the revised sheet.
I'll include that on the final draft, which will be posted soon.
Is the ? beside Leadership because you're not sure if you want to take it or not sure if I'm ok with it? (cuz i am)
I was unsure at first, but now I have finalized it. Tatterdemalion is shaping up to be a pretty cool cohort.
Warlocks must be either chaotic or evil. this means Chaotic since evil's N/A
Gleep. Ok. Sorry, I'm so used to that being house ruled that I forgot about it. Chaotic Good will work for the concept though.
Could you include how much XP was spent on which crafted items? (Specifically the rod of magical precision, death warded chain shirt, ring of super duper defense, mask of lies, and greater chasuble of fel power are all custom and must be crafted either by you or another pc.)
Hmm! The ring too, eh? I thought as long as I was combining core items, I wouldn't need to craft it. Okay, back to the drawing board then.
RE: Defending - I only allow defending weapons to grant their bonus if you're actually wielding them as a weapon, not just carrying/holding them.
So you only get the bonus if you make an attack with it? If I have it in my off hand, and my rod in my on hand, and am shooting EB's with the rod, does the dagger count as being 'wielded as a weapon?' I could make AoO's with it...albeit at a penalty. Or attack (at penalty) in melee if someone came over to me.
Once I get the inventory mess straightened out, I'll repost the revised sheet.
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