General star wars talk/discussion/complaining
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Gradine
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That wasn't a change found in the sequel films, to be fair
chuckdee
Explorer
Not an ignoble death, but the fact that he gets taken out by accident by a blind person.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
He is most famous for what he didn't do on film - he first appeared as an exclusive toy.
I'm 65% sure his first appearance in the infamous Xmas special predates the toy. The special was the end of '78, and quick google search looks like the toys were 1979. But I don't have any solid evidence to back that up.
Willie the Duck
Hero
Those are all accomplishments or positive qualities. By themselves, perhaps not enough to make the character standout cool. The one orc in The Two Towers that survives Legolas's arrows and gets the bomb in place to break the walls of Helm's Deep gets a badass moment, but isn't treated with fan reverence. I feel like that's where these land Fett. I strongly think it is what people expected to then happen next (that didn't) that was what propelled him to epic status.
The rocket pack is a great example. Having a rocket pack? Kinda cool. Using a rocket pack to (say) leap out of his ship and drop mid-dogfight, fly onto Luke's X-wing, pull him out of the canopy, and engage in a lightsaber-vs.-disintegrator duel before just barely losing with just enough time for Luke to crawl back inside and pull the X-wing out of a dive before it crashes? Epic cool beyond anything anyone could imagine. Using a rocket pack to leap from Jabba's sail barge to the executioner's skiff*? Er, well, it happened. *and then be instrumental in his ignominious death-by-Wilhelm-scream.
I'm trying to find a way that downplaying Boba Fett is somehow even remotely edgy. One can disagree with it, but not clear how it is edgy. Nor that it somehow doesn't have a point (inasmuch as any of Star Wars over-analysis does). Are you sure you weren't trying to force in that pizza-cutter comparison?
I was talking about the fandom in general -- not either you or me. There are a boatload of things in Star Wars that present as cool (stuff in the movies tend to fall into three categories: cool, hokey/silly, or deliberately shabby/worn out). Only some of them get massive fandom love-fests.
I mean, I feel like others of us have been presenting cases at least worthy-of-debate that it was more than just the coolness of the look that spring boarded Boba to popularity, but more power to you for having a solid position. I'll certainly agree that Gwendoline Christie could have given the character all sorts of personality and it was to the movies' detriment that the writers did not capitalize on the opportunity.
Correct. The holiday special advertises the toy with working rocket-launcher action. By the time the toy actually came out, they had changed that.
GrimCo
Hero
Well, i try not to look to deep into stuff. Boba Fett got 6.5 minutes of screen time and 3 spoken lines in original trology. All that implied subtext that you are debating is something maybe attentive adult watcher will catch. But for kids, teens and casual watchers that didn't think too deeply about such minor characters, it was mostly due to visual choices that made him stand out and becoming popular. Dude had wrist mounted grappling line and jetpack and cool armor.
In visual media like movie, design matters a lot. And he had very interesting design that stood out.
In visual media like movie, design matters a lot. And he had very interesting design that stood out.
payn
Glory to Marik
So, Boba reminds kids of inspector gadget.
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If there is one space the new trilogy fumbled it was great villains. First film had two very intriguing possibilities with Kylo and Hux, and Phasma would have been a cool subvillain. But it dropped the ball with all of them. For me these are two key things that make the new trilogy not work and make it so much less than the original trilogy: not being a functioning trilogy and not having solid villains
